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panegalli

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Psychotherapy
« on: January 05, 2016, 02:32:15 PM »
I wonder what the contemplatives and mystics here in the forum think of psychotherapies such as psychoanalisys (Jungian,Freudian,Lacanian) , cognitive behavioural therapy etc, to aid and assist us in the search of greater well being and less adictive behaviours. My brother is a psychoanalist (Lacanian) and he insists that I should go to some Freudian/Lacanian psychoanalist and considers meditation practice based on a "narcissist dellusion of the completeness of the self" or some other crap like that. Honestly, I don't put much faith in things like psychoanalysis, I believe the benefit meditation produces is in a whole other level.
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Re: Psychotherapy
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2016, 03:31:55 AM »
I think saying meditation is a narcissistic delusion is meaningless nonsense. It sounds like intellectual elitism, and a lot of people with high degrees, like the ones it takes to be called a psychoanalyst, have to convince themselves of things like that to justify the cost, effort, and time it took to get their certifications.

I think there is a distinct difference between the act of counseling, which is an immensely important task, and the weirdly calcified belief systems that grow up around psychoanalytical theories. Counseling, by someone older, wiser, more experienced, more in tune with emotions, more in tune with whatever, or simply with a different perspective than your own, is and should be a natural facet of human life. But I don't think that's really where your brother is coming from (no offense).

A lot of mental and emotional problems are physical in nature. Working on your health and diet will help give you a much better foundation to work from and you may be surprised how many problems that solves right there, or at least reduces to a manageable level. Then meditation is an important component, as obviously anyone around here will say. And if you can find counseling of some sort, whether that's an unpretentious therapist or the guys in the park playing chess, that could help too.

I think the important thing is to not judge yourself for trying anything you think you may need, and I'm certainly not trying to say I know what works and will help every single person. But if it feels too intellectual and inaccessible, it's probably a waste of time. I've never found meditation to be a waste of time though, and it hardly interferes if you do want to try other things to help yourself along in life.

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Re: Psychotherapy
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 09:26:00 PM »
My brother is a psychoanalist (Lacanian) and he insists that I should go to some Freudian/Lacanian psychoanalist and considers meditation practice based on a "narcissist dellusion of the completeness of the self"

I agree with your brother regarding the the significance of psychoanalysis.  I went through 9 years of weekly therapy to get through my neuroses; however, one would not want to go to a therapist who believes meditation practice is not necessary, because it is based upon a "narcissist delusion" of any kind.  After all psychoanalysis without leading a self-aware, fruitful, contemplative life leads nowhere.

Thus, I agree with Zack's wise response.
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