air purifiers

[KriyaYogi]

I've also gotten benefits from using air purifiers.  I can give testimony to that as well.  Although I have only used a room system not a mask system.  In my personal case I feel I have gotten the most self healing from energy, including various sound modalities.  The last time I had my bloodwork checked everything was in ideal range, better than in 2021.  My kidneys particularly scored extremely well, my glomular filtration rate was almost 120, which is ideal for a male caucasian teenager, and unusually good for someone near 40.  I do have muscle tiredness but generally feel very good for my age as well.

As I have done energy healing and energy work training over the last 10 years slowly my blood work seemed to optimize.

Does anyone else have any stories of healing through energy?

I have thought a few times of starting a small energy healing business to support my retreat.  Family members have reported reductions in pain when I did healings on them so I have a few small testimonials.   

-David

[Jhanananda]

I'm glad you have had some success with using an air purifier.  Can you describe what your air purifier does such as: is it HEPA only? Does it have activated charcoal? Is it multi-gas rated? Do you keep the windows closed? Is your air purifier rated for the room it is in?  Do you service the filters in a timely manner? Make and model?

As for energy healing, in my experience one has to be meditating consistently to the 3rd samadhi where energetic phenomena arises for one to use this energy for healing.  So, start with consistent, daily meditation that gets you to the 3rd stage of samadhi on a regular basis.

[KriyaYogi]

I have had a similar body feel sensation from both the air purifier used very close to my face as well as sound healing.  The general sensation is something of a 'full body pulsating massaging sensation'.  To me they seem similar therapies.

 We have four standard Honeywell air purifiers in the house, yes standard Honeywell purifiers have activated charcol prefilters and base HEPA filters we service them whenever the unit indicates the filter is clogged.  HEPA filters get changed yearly as per the unit and activated charcol prefilters get changed every 3rd month.

-David

[Jhanananda]

We have four standard Honeywell air purifiers in the house, yes standard Honeywell purifiers have activated charcol prefilters and base HEPA filters we service them whenever the unit indicates the filter is clogged.  HEPA filters get changed yearly as per the unit and activated charcol prefilters get changed every 3rd month.

-David

With your parents being respiratory therapists I would expect they would have both HEPA and activated charcoal based air purifiers and would be servicing them regularly.  I found 5 years ago that HEPA and activated charcoal based air purifiers were not enough to treat my COPD.  At that time I found these features of air purifiers don't remove acid gasses and VOCs.  I have since learned about multi-gas air purifiers and respirators.  I have been experimenting with them for 2 months now and found they are a lot more effective at treating my COPD than the combination of just HEPA and activate charcoal; however, I have found my methods work better. 

What is different about my method is I am combining HEPA and activated charcoal based air purifiers with water as an exchange medium.  It turns out that both acid gasses and VOCs are highly soluble in water, so I have added a floor model evaporative cooler to my air processing system, and I have found it works great; however, I also found that the sump of the evaporative cooler needs to be drained at least once a day.  The reason for this is how evaporative coolers work, is they suck room air through an absorbent membrane which is saturated with water this extracts the acid gasses, VOCs and particle matter out of the air stream but the acid gasses, VOCs and particle matter accumulate in the evaporative cooler sump, which then should be removed at least once a day, to every 8 hours.

[KriyaYogi]

It's great to document all this research.  I am not supppper scientific myself, but I see the benefit of it.  Myself I have run into alof of life success using intuition during meditation or divination sessions.  Anyways my dad also has slight COPD and has mentioned he benefits from the air purifiers.

I think it's a great line of research and there are so many many experiments that could be carried out. 

Do you think there are any other biological dredging systems that could be applied in parallel to amplify the rejuvenation?
For example dialysis or fasting or colonics.

For me I am on the path of energy healing and similar to you I have recieved remarkable, documented results in my bloodwork from it but I find your research interesting as well.  I was actually an R&D Engineer from 2008 to 2013 in upstate NY so I do have a tinge of research interest myself occosionally!


-David

[KriyaYogi]

What happened to me personally when I worked with both sonic energy healing at higher levels as well as putting an air purifier right up to my face was a full body pulsing sensation.  I think for me that is a major sign of rejuvenation occuring in the body as I was saying previously.

I can also relate another similar experience we both seem to have had.  You mentioned a while back on the phone that most or all of your mucus was gone after using the custom air filteration system.  After 2 years doing sound healing a very pure form of mucus started dripping down the back of my throat (called Amrita I think) and I felt it purified the mucus in my body.

I know mucus purification has been a philosophy for a long time in the health food community.

-David

[Jhanananda]

It's great to document all this research.  I am not supppper scientific myself, but I see the benefit of it.  Myself I have run into alof of life success using intuition during meditation or divination sessions.  Anyways my dad also has slight COPD and has mentioned he benefits from the air purifiers.

I think it's a great line of research and there are so many many experiments that could be carried out. 

Thank you for expressing your kind thoughts for my 50 years of research to treat my undiagnosed autoimmune condition which is the result of a flu I had in the late 60s, so we should acknowledge my condition is essentially post viral syndrome, and consistent with the long-COVID, although I have had the symptoms of long-COVID for 55 years.

Do you think there are any other biological dredging systems that could be applied in parallel to amplify the rejuvenation?
For example dialysis or fasting or colonics.

For me I am on the path of energy healing and similar to you I have recieved remarkable, documented results in my bloodwork from it but I find your research interesting as well.  I was actually an R&D Engineer from 2008 to 2013 in upstate NY so I do have a tinge of research interest myself occosionally!

-David

In the 55 years I have been trying everything I can to resolve my chronic autoimmune condition I have tried pretty much everything including: colonics, organic, raw, vegan diet, fasting, energy healing, body-work, acupuncture, auroveda, various other ethnomical practices and ethnobottony. The most significant problem in my research is I would try something, that seemed to work for a while, then eventually it would fail to relieve my symptoms.  For instance I was on a 100% organic, raw, vegan diet for 37 years, because it seemed to be the best system I could find; however, I was diagnosed with obesity, diabetes, and hypertension after 37 years on that diet system, which resulted in these diagnoses.

Most significantly I met Dr. Bernard Jensen in my first year on raw, organic food, which at the time seemed to be working very well for me.  However, he lectured me on that system resulted in his wife dying of cancer, so he was questioning its efficacy.

So, diabetes seemed to be the most critical component of my diagnoses, and believed by medical practice as diet related; so, since I had been on a disciplined diet system I figured I would just apply my discipline to a diabetes diet.  The first thing I did was scrutinize my diet and found I had been on the recommended 50g of carbs per meal diet system for 10 years before my diabetes diagnosis. And, I was equipped with a blood glucose meter.  So, I checked my blood sugar every morning for a week, and found that my blood sugar was normal every morning.  So, I decided that the lab must have mixed up the blood samples, but I further reduced my garb intake.

Six months later I was back in the ER with an inflammatory event, and the previous year I had been in the ER almost monthly with various inflammatory events.  The ER sent me back to my PCP after an inflammatory event.  He asked me how I was doing on controlling my blood sugar and I told him that every time I checked my blood sugar I found it normal, so I assumed the lab mixed up the blood samples, and stopped checking my blood sugar. So, he sent me back for another lab and it came back again with my blood sugar 2.5 time normal, as it had been 6 months earlier.  So, I started checking my blood sugar and found my daily readings were indeed 2.5 times normal, so I started cutting back on my carb intake and got down to zero grabs of carbs per meal, and found my blood sugar still consistently 2.5 time over normal.  Then I decided I would just fast until my blood sugar returned to normal.  Since I had been conducting 10-day water fasts every year for the previous 37 years it seemed like something that I could do.  SO, I started a water fast in the morning, and tested my blood sugar every 4 hours and found that my blood sugar continued to rise for the next 3 days until it was 4.5 times normal.  So, I stopped the fast on a zero carb meal and found my blood sugar return to 2.5 times normal.

So, I was on a zero carb diet with no fasting for about 5 years, and still having consistently high blood sugars, but noticed that my blood sugars were consistently higher in Prescott, AZ than anywhere else in the county.  Which was definitely weird.  Along the way I was still going to the ER for various inflammatory events and they would find my blood sugar 4.5 times over normal. About 5 years into being frustrated to control my blood sugar through diet and fasting I decided that I could reduce my trips to the ER if I just started taking antihistamines because a lot of my ER events were preceded by allergy events.

I have had a career in scientific research which to me is all about data acquizition and interpretation.  So, throughout me diabetes and hypertension and obesity I had been recording my daily blood sugar and blood oxygen and pulse rate because I had been having a lot of asthma events.  Well, the next morning after taking antihistamines for my allergies I found my blood sugar had dropped 100 units for the first time in 5 years. So, I kept taking antihistamines and recording my blood sugar.

About 2.5 years later I was diagnosed with COPD.  Being a non-smoker, I figured my COPD and allergies would improve if I owned an air purifier.  So, I bought a HEPA filter and found a small amount of improvement in my health after a month. After the first month on a HEPA filter I decided to add activated charcoal, and found more improvement in my health. 

Since I have a COPD diagnoses I ended up with a pulmonologist who prescribed me with a CPAP machine.  The first 3 nights I tried it, it plugged my airways within an hour.  So, I asked my pulmonologist if there were HEPA and activated charcoal filters for it, and he said, "No." So, I went down to the local hardware store and plumbed both HEPA and activated charcoal filters to the CPAP machine, and found radical improvement in my health as long as I breathed purified air from the CPAP machine with these filters 24/7.  In fact not only did my pulmonary function had improved but after a month on this system my blood blood sugar dropped 100 units and I even lost the 50lbs I had gained when I moved to Prescott, AZ. I have been on that system nearly 24/7 since and I have been working on a portable system which I finally improved enough so I can go to the grocery store without ending up in the ER.

What happened to me personally when I worked with both sonic energy healing at higher levels as well as putting an air purifier right up to my face was a full body pulsing sensation.  I think for me that is a major sign of rejuvenation occuring in the body as I was saying previously.

I can also relate another similar experience we both seem to have had.  You mentioned a while back on the phone that most or all of your mucus was gone after using the custom air filteration system.  After 2 years doing sound healing a very pure form of mucus started dripping down the back of my throat (called Amrita I think) and I felt it purified the mucus in my body.

I know mucus purification has been a philosophy for a long time in the health food community.

-David

Correct, I have a COPD diagnosis, but as long as I breathe purified air coming from my air purification system powered by a CPAP machine I haev no mucus at all, and my blood oxygen and pulse are within the range of normal.  No magic required.

[KriyaYogi]

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The most significant problem in my research is I would try something, that seemed to work for a while, then eventually it would fail to relieve my symptoms.
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   I am VERY aware of this myself as well.  I am trying to use my years as efficiently as possible to reach bliss, peace and a protected state because similar to you I have tried therapies that worked great in my 20s and then as my cells age the therapy works less well.  I suppose this is due to entropy, the wearing down of the system.  To truly reverse aging I believe systemic entropic reversal would need to be discovered and proved, but technically that would break the second law of thermodynamics as I understand it.

There is a term 'Hayflick limit' for the maximum amount of times a cell can divide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayflick_limit

Basically as more damage occurs stronger and stronger therapies are needed to counteract cell degredation I suppose.

I look forward to your future research!

-David

[Jhanananda]

My point in why a therapy might appear to work, then not work, is just because a therapy seems to work might be better explained by variations in one's environment that one reacts to, so as the offending environmental influence declines one's health appears to improve, so we could misinterpret that improvement in health as a response to the therapy.  Observing air quality has shown me the environmental variables that I have been responding to, and with 5 years of close observation I see the influence. So, just because you find something that improves your health, but later doesn't you might find with close observation of regional environmental air quality might reveal to you what is actually working for you, and your health simply improving with improving air quality.  I have also found wind velocity and direction and humidity are critical factors in my health.

[KriyaYogi]

Sure true, I suppose it would take a large scale clinical trial to know.  Even then sometimes people don't know and many trials are needed.  I guess we both have to just do the best we can.  Another complicating factor is that possibly the air cleaning system you have works particularly well for you because you have chronic lung issues, where as someone who had very strong lungs but other health issues may have a different experience.  In their case their lungs may perform the function that your purifier does to a degree?

I can say as far as your healing system goes I can report benefits and so can my dad, although we don't use mask systems.  My father has primarily used chemical medical therapies for his flare ups; inhailers, buffered inhailers, and some form of steriod I believe, although his issues are not too serious as of yet.  At his job he often supplied home oxygen tanks to individuals for their own mask systems or did various lung function tests in the hospitals, until his retirement a few years ago.

-David

[KriyaYogi]

I would put up the hypothesis for test that part of the reason you have had such great results is due to preexisting cardiovascular conditions or perhaps because you also meditate with the system on and get increased benefit.  I would love to hear another testimonial from someone without prexisting lung conditions healing or reversing their issues using your system, such as liver damage, kidney damage, altzheimers, etc...

But anyways, for my personality type I feel there is just too much information to test and doing that would maybe give me stress too, too much thinking.  Thoughout most of my life as I look back most things that really helped me I used mainly intuition on rather than data.  Maybe testing helps others get ahead though, I can see that.

-David

[Jhanananda]

I agree a large scale clinical trial and double blind and peer reviewed would be very useful; however, what we see is medicine is funded by the pharmaceutical industry, and they aren't interested in solving degenerative diseases that might have an environmental cause.  They want millions to billions of people addicted to their pharmaceutical solutions which almost always have side effects.

For instance, your father being on steroidal therapies for his chronic respiratory illnesses have serious side effects, which I am sure he is aware of. Whereas, my homemade air purifiers have completely eliminated the use of steroids for me, and they have no side effects.  I haven't taken prednisone, or used an inhaler in 5 years.  With a COPD diagnosis I used to be in the ER weekly for oxygen and breathing therapies, which I am sure your father gave and received, but I haven't needed the ER in 3 years.  So, clearly I am onto something pulmonology knows nothing about.

The key to understanding why my specially developed air purifier system works is to begin by understanding that the respiratory irritants in air pollution are not just particle matter (PM), or otherwise a HEPA filter alone would be all a respiratory patient would need.  The respiratory irritants are also a series of gasses including acid gasses and VOCs.  Next is to understand that gasses and VOCs are highly soluble in water, which explains why humidifiers help people with acute and chronic respiratory illnesses.  Once we understand that, then understanding that using a wet porous membrane, such as an evaporative cooler, we can understand why an evaporative cooler happens to be an exceptional air purifier because it is a very effective way of removing gasses and VOCs from the air we breathe, as long as the sump of the evaporative cooler is drained at least 1-3 times per day.

The next thing to understand is gasses and VOCs have other effects upon the body besides irritating the lungs. They also go readily into solution in the blood stream which causes the body to produce large amounts of proteins to extract them from the blood stream, then the kidneys are tasked with removing the proteins plus gasses and VOCs, this can result in kidney disease, and can result in heart damage and I believe it might very well be the cause of the plaques on the nervous system which are associated with alzhemers.

For instance, my Reiter's Syndrome which was caused by a flu I had when I was 15 is not just associated with reactive arthritis, but also comes with chronic recurring UTIs.  However, since I have been water washing the air I breathe for 5 years now, I have had very few UTIs, and of the few UTIs I have had in the last 5 years, they only occurred due to being away from my air purifiers too long, and I have found with repeated experiments that when I begin to experience a UTI all I have to do is go back to breathing purified air and the UTI goes away immediately, not hours.

[KriyaYogi]

Very interesting.  There is so much junk in the air.

I remember when the government officially disclosed the existance of chemtrails for 'geoengineering' some years back.  Supposedly they are using barium salts, heavy metals and other things to control global warming.   At this point now many countries have disclosed the use of chemtrailing for geoengineering as well...

Oxford says: "According to Oxford University, geoengineering is the deliberate and intentional act of intervening in Earth's natural cycles in an attempt to counteract climate change, previously referred to as global warming. There are two main categories under which geoengineering takes place; solar radiation management (SRM) and carbon dioxide removal (CDR)...

Stratospheric Particle Injection:

Chemtrails are stratospheric sulfate aerosols which are distributed into Earth's atmosphere using a method known as stratospheric particle injection. Sulfate aerosols to have been used in the process include sulfuric acid, sulfur oxide and hydrogen sulfide and others to have been proposed by Paul Crutzen for direct delivery of precursors include dimethyl sulfide and carbonyl sulfide; toxic substances which can adversely affect the health of plant and animal life (including humans).Stratospheric Particle Injection "

-David

[KriyaYogi]

Jeff what do you feel is the difference between your sytem and the oxygen tank delivery system that is usally used for long term COPD?  My dad used to do, for a second job, a home care service where he would drive around and deliver chemically produced oxygen tanks to people who used them at home.


-David

[Jhanananda]

Very interesting.  There is so much junk in the air.

I remember when the government officially disclosed the existance of chemtrails for 'geoengineering' some years back.  Supposedly they are using barium salts, heavy metals and other things to control global warming.   At this point now many countries have disclosed the use of chemtrailing for geoengineering as well...

Oxford says: "According to Oxford University, geoengineering is the deliberate and intentional act of intervening in Earth's natural cycles in an attempt to counteract climate change, previously referred to as global warming. There are two main categories under which geoengineering takes place; solar radiation management (SRM) and carbon dioxide removal (CDR)...

Stratospheric Particle Injection:

Chemtrails are stratospheric sulfate aerosols which are distributed into Earth's atmosphere using a method known as stratospheric particle injection. Sulfate aerosols to have been used in the process include sulfuric acid, sulfur oxide and hydrogen sulfide and others to have been proposed by Paul Crutzen for direct delivery of precursors include dimethyl sulfide and carbonyl sulfide; toxic substances which can adversely affect the health of plant and animal life (including humans).Stratospheric Particle Injection "

-David

Please note I split this topic off and started a new thread.

I've been hearing about chemtrails for decades but this is the first time I have heard there is some truth to it, and I am not surprised that global warmers have signed up for increasing air pollution to mediate for global warming. I recall Bill Gates is into this. It is really a bad idea, and deeply dubious, because global warming is a fraud.  We can discuss this under a new topic, but none of us need to be breathing in air pollution, and it makes sense that industry has signed on board, because they suddenly become good for polluting.

Jeff what do you feel is the difference between your sytem and the oxygen tank delivery system that is usally used for long term COPD?  My dad used to do, for a second job, a home care service where he would drive around and deliver chemically produced oxygen tanks to people who used them at home.


-David

As for the use of supplemental oxygen for people with chronic respiratory illnesses, it doesn't heal, it just keeps people alive longer; whereas, breathing only purified air addresses the cause of chronic respiratory illnesses.