In just a few sessions I have gone from relief to a slight dissapointment when the timer has gone off.
During one of the sit at this retreat I found myself in deep absorption when the timer went off, so I just sat through it until the ecstasy was over. So, there is no reason why you could not sit through the timer, unless your timer does not stop beeping, to get more meditation time, or absorption time, if you want it.
It seems that I had some specific stuff I needed to face in order to sit longer, but once that was out of the way it is a lot easier. Especially restlessness was a problem I would not admit that I was having, but reading through the discourse on mindfulness of body helped a lot and now I am alot more rigorous in establishing a good, calm bodily ... abiding.
Getting through the many obstacles to deep meditation is essential. One of those is learning to relax deeply. I have found is certainly a component in learning to meditation deeply.
I'm starting to see clearly that the depth and energy of the jhanas really comes in waves (as has been written around here and discussed in the video series as well) and one of the tricks that I needed to learn for the longer sessions go get more enjoyable is to remember to shift attention when dropping down a jhana. As soon as there is some internal dialogue, there needs to be joy. But as soon as it quiets down again, the joy can fade too. It requires a different kind of wakefulness than is needed when doing a shorter session, where I would sit until I dropped down and then go off. There seems to be many levels of skillfulness to this simple pleasure of meditation.
I agree
Between sessions I have been thinking about what superficially seems to be contradictions in attitude recommended towards meditation. For example, I need to expect to get some thing out of meditation. I might even expect to get a lot out of it, otherwise I will not prioritize it correctly.
I agree that we need to expect to get something out of the practice of meditation, or otherwise we will not find anything. I believe that expectation is what drives our instincts to find the religious experience.
However, expecting anything when actually sitting, besides the specific joys of each jhana, seems to be detrimental to the actual experience.
Well, I agree that at the same time we need to let got of our expectation when we meditate, because out expectation might mislead us. Also, until we have a religious experience, we will have no idea what that experience is about anyway.
It's the same with effort. I need to have some kind of effort. I need effort to put my self on the cushion. I also need a kind of effort to relax and quiet down the body as well as the mind. But I also need to drop the effort and go with the groove. It seems like a subtle balance thing. Maybe like the opposite of what is known as boot-strapping, where you would start from nothing and end up with something great. But from the everyday-walking-around perspective, it would be starting with heaps of crap and ending up with nothing. Or rather, 'being' nothing. Or maybe it is like a chess game where you would play both sides (effort and non-effort, or doing and being), with the aim of exiting the game without anyting left on the board. But maybe I'm over-stretching it a bit now.
We could just say there are many contradictions in the contemplative life. While we need to apply effort, we need to also learn to let go at deep levels.
I'm pushing my self a bit now, to see what happens. I hope to get four one hour+ sits each day, and at least two lying down sessions, not counting the night. I have some bodily adjustments that I need to make in order to manage the longer sits (a bad hip that sometimes rips my bliss apart before I have reached deep enough not to care about it) but it's doable and not that big of a deal.
It sounds like you have set a very good practice strategy for yourself. At the GWV retreats we tend to sit 4-6 1-hour sits lus 1-2 laying down sessions each day as well. I am not big on meditating on the pain, because I believe it is better for people to learn to love to meditate, or otherwise they are not likely to develop a long-term sitting practice that leads to bliss, joy and ecstasy.
I got both startled and motivated by the deva visit the other night and it seems I need to start adjusting to a radically different perspective of reality. I need to have stuff like that happen so much that I get used to it so I don't get too startled. Or be better settled in equanimity, I suppose.
When your contemplative life is more consistent, then you are likely to have visits from angels (devas) on a regular basis.
I have had a couple of experiences of scenes playing out "like a movie", with me being able to do nothing about it, but have not considered any of them an experience from a past life. However, since starting out on the spiritual journey years ago, my dreams and visions have followed a pattern that seems reasonable and I have been tracking most of my neurosis and fears, and the workings of the night. And some time ago, things really cleared up and I have not had much new unknown "psychological garbage" surfacing. Nothing has scared or surprised me, except for an occasional religious experience - but that would just be blissful. But some time ago I have been getting quick images and visions that I have not been able to track and have been a bit strange for me. I wasn't at all sure about the past life stuff before, but I have started to consider it a likely possibility, from my own experience. And comically I would have had to conclude that I was most probably some kind of floor-level animal mostly because I would always see a rug or a being very close to the ground and stuff like that. Different floor-level stuff each time though. This was not something I took very seriously until it hit me that maybe that was what I had seen when leaving that particular body. That would actually make sense. Hitting the ground is probably often a part of dying.
The other possibility is that you might have been an infant human.
All these different kinds of dreams, especially the more familiar ones - like "things-that-happened-during-the-day processing" or "psycological-garbage puke" or "neurosis-and-complex stuff" - they all "taste" different. Also, the random crap type imagery that the mind throws at me when progressing into meditation, they are very easy to just dismiss. But these possible images of previous deaths seem to be a bit more ... persistent and clear.
When having a help-I-cant-open-my-eyes type of "movie" vision, it is often clear that it is not just my unconsious. These seem like ultra-light versions of the same. But still.
I don't know if I'm making any sense out of this, but maybe some one can relate. At least trying to express these subtle type of things seems to have a positive effect on me.
Not being able to open your eyes while in a dream is classic pre-OOBE. It is also part of the sleep paralysis sequence.
During one of the lying down/drifting off type of sessions I had most recently (today? to night?) I saw a person (white against black background) that then turned into a group, then into a crowd, then into a huuuuge crowd, then into a field of just dots of light, and beautiful wave like motions would go through it. It was very beautiful. And I thought, either is this past lives of mine, or there is this place in space where a bunch of angels are standing around really close to each other, being really still and just ... doing nothing. I don't really trust my instincts and intuition because these kind of things are really new to me, but both ideas seem to make sense to me. And somewhere deep inside of me I feel like crying writing this, so it was obviously important for me.
This "crowd" could be the angels of heaven, or it could be seeing a glimpse of all of your previous lifetimes. I have had both experiences, and cannot determine which one applies to your case without more details.
Thank you for your kind support. Although I have been realizing that the blessed life truly is accessible to me, as to everyone, as it unfolds there is really a progression from one unbelievable thing to the next. And each ... step ... seems beautiful and vulnerable. So, seeing how long the road is, it is truly amazing that you can stand as far down the road as Jef, and reach a guy like me six years ago. And as I progress, I still need a helping hand for each step. Again, thank you.
Now, I'm going to try show my old hip some yoga-love and see if we can agree better next sit.
You are welcome, and good luck with the hip. At 60 with lots of arthritis, I have recently found up to 1 325mg aspirin 5 times a day works great for me.