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Valdy

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Observation
« on: May 22, 2012, 06:01:15 PM »
Hi, I have been reading another of Eckhart Tolle's books and am trying his technique of observing myself.
What happens is that I start to see faint images in the black and my energy goes way up. I think it is helpfull in the Dark night of the soul because the chatter I hear starts to leave. It also increases my energy considerably and last night I had an OOB and some lucid dreams.

The feeling I get is of extreme concentration and I was wondering if I am looping a chakra back into myself?

I have been to what I call power spots and the feeling of concentration is the same as I feel on the power spots.

I thought that I may have more trouble sleeping with higher energy but my sleep seems to have improved some.

I am having a little trouble keeping it at this moment but if I am mindfull I can.

Don't know if there is a question here, just reporting.

I do have a question about OOB's, I was wondering if it wrong to do them, if I am going into the unmanifest is it best to just dissolve into nothing?

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Re: Observation
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2012, 12:47:17 PM »
HI Valdy, good to hear from you again
Hi, I have been reading another of Eckhart Tolle's books and am trying his technique of observing myself.
A skillful contemplative life is all about self observation, so it is good that you are doing so.  It also helps to take that practice of self observation out of formal meditation practice and make it a moment-to-moment practice.
What happens is that I start to see faint images in the black and my energy goes way up. I think it is helpfull in the Dark night of the soul because the chatter I hear starts to leave. It also increases my energy considerably and last night I had an OOB and some lucid dreams.

The feeling I get is of extreme concentration and I was wondering if I am looping a chakra back into myself?
The faint images are the charism of light arising as your meditation deepens into contemplation.  It is; however, best not to try to make anything out of the images, because it would be just the mind playing games.  So, it is best to just let the light be light, but not take form.  We know that we have left formal meditation practice when the mind has become still, light increases, energy increases, concentration increases, our sleep becomes more lucid and we have OOBEs.
I have been to what I call power spots and the feeling of concentration is the same as I feel on the power spots.
So called "power spots" were made power spots by someone who meditated deeply came and meditated deeply there. So, wherever you are meditating deeply, you are making into a power spot.
I thought that I may have more trouble sleeping with higher energy but my sleep seems to have improved some.

I am having a little trouble keeping it at this moment but if I am mindfull I can.

Don't know if there is a question here, just reporting.

I do have a question about OOB's, I was wondering if it wrong to do them, if I am going into the unmanifest is it best to just dissolve into nothing?

Bless Valdy
When meditating deeply, or going into an OOBE, abandon yourself to it.  You will be safe, you cannot "just dissolve into nothing."  Well, you can, and it is a great religious experience; however, you come back when the meditation is over.

Christian mystics called what we are discussing here, the "Holy Spirit."  I think it is best to consider that the religious experience is the direct experience of the sacred.  That is what I have done for nearly 40 years.  It has helped me a great deal.  If it is the Holy Spirit, then we cannot be harmed by the experience.  I have not been harmed by the religious experience in 40 years of having these experiences in meditation; therefore it is reasonable to consider this is true for all people.
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Re: Observation
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2012, 07:08:27 PM »
Hello Jeff
Thank you for the very good reply.

Last night my energy was so high that I lost it and couldn't sleep so now I am like a zombie. I hear a roaring noise in my head and what sounds like a diesel engine running in my head, any idea what those sounds are and how to stop them?
I am desparate to get some sleep :-)

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Re: Observation
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2012, 01:44:23 PM »
Good to hear that you are having such success in meditation.  The roaring noise that sounds like a diesel engine running in your head is the charismatic sound.  It is the heavenly host speaking to you.  Bow down to it in complete submission and with all devotion, or give up meditation forever.
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Re: Observation
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2012, 08:30:55 AM »
Hi Valdy. The loud noise is a necessary part of one's spiritual growth and there is no way to stop it. What I do is , is to ignore it. It is with me 24/7 and one must learn to live with it. Cheers

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Re: Observation
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2012, 02:19:41 PM »
Embrace the sounds...

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Re: Observation
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2012, 06:06:17 PM »
Thanks fellows :-)