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pj

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An interesting article
« on: October 11, 2013, 02:50:33 AM »
http://kathodos.com/buddhism

This was an interesting approach to buddhism (and spirituality in general).

Be careful about the webmaster's other website (aryanbuddhism blog).  He seems to be filled with ill-will.

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Re: An interesting article
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2013, 12:31:38 PM »
I liked the following quotes at the start
Quote from: DOCTRINE OF ORTHODOX BUDDHISM
Then only will you see it, when you cannot speak of it: for the knowledge of it is deep silence, and suppression of all the senses.Hermes Trismegistus, Lib. X.5....

Buddhist doctrine presents almost insuperable difficulties...it is a doctrine for those whose wants are few, not for those whose wants are many...

In his own lifetime the Buddha repeatedly found it necessary to correct the misinterpretations of his teaching...

If misunderstanding was possible in the Buddha's own time when, as he says, the Ancient Way that he reopens had been long neglected and a false doctrine had arisen, how much more is misinterpretation inevitable in our day of progress, self expression and the endless pursuits of higher materialistic standards of living?

The difficulties have been intensified by the misinterpretations of Buddhism that are still to be found even in the works of narrow-minded western scholarship which is wholly devoid of the ancient Indian mind and metaphor...

Again, it is still often asserted that Buddhism is a `'pessimistic" doctrine, notwithstanding that its goal of freedom from all the mental suffering that man is heir to is one attainable here and now: in any case, over looking that a doctrine can be judged only in terms of its truth or falsity, and not by whether we like it or not!...
http://kathodos.com/buddhism

At the beginning of the 3rd paragraph I did have a problem with the following:
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The Buddha is primarily concerned with the problem of evil (rupa)
Rupa refers the concrete, material, and the physical body.  I do not think that anywhere in the suttas it is associated with evil; however, we are extolled to seek the ineffable in the form of the religious experience (samadhi), which is defined as the 8th fold, and it is for the purpose of liberation from the addictions/sins/fetters that bind us to the material (rupa).

Not finding much of the succor of bliss, joy and ecstasy, I stopped after the 4th paragraph.  PJ, Perhaps you could point us to a few quotes that inspired you to post the link?
Be careful about the webmaster's other website (aryanbuddhism blog).  He seems to be filled with ill-will.
I am sure that is what people say about me as well, just because I exercise logic and critical thinking when I approach religion.
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Re: An interesting article
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2013, 05:48:01 PM »
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I am sure that is what people say about me as well, just because I exercise logic and critical thinking when I approach religion.

Perhaps, but we have this: http://aryan-buddhism.blogspot.com/2013/08/how-scumfucking-buddhists-think-meaning.html ......
Which goes a bit beyond simple criticism in how it states its view.

Didn't notice the equation of rupa with evil in the beginning, however later on he also has " The repudiation is of what would nowadays be described as "animism": the psycho physical, behaving mechanism is not a "Self," and is devoid (sun’n’a) of any Self like property. The “individuality” or self consciousness or self existence (atta sambhava) is a composite of five associated grounds (dhatu) or stems (khandha), viz., the visible body (rupa, kaya),

I think he was more describing it as evil in the sense that it is not self, however it does seem a bit of a foolish usage/definition there.

He writes quite a bit about the similarities between buddhism, chirstianity, platonism, and mentions Rumi several times

"'  The five khandhas are nearly the same as the five "powers of the soul" as defined by Aristotle (De an., 11, 111) and St Th. Aquinas (Sum. Theol., 1, 18. 1), viz. the vegetative (nutritive), sensitive, appetitive, motive, intellectual [diagnostic, critical]),' in short, a composite of body and discriminating consciousness/sentience (sa vinnana kaya), the psycho physical existent. The causal origination, variability, and mortality of all these factors is demonstrated; they are not "ours," because we cannot say "let them, or let me, be thus or thus" (S., 111. 66 67): on the contrary, "we" are what they "become," "a biological entity, impelled by inherited impulses (L. Paul, The Annihilation of Man, 1945, p. 156.)  "

"All this is nothing peculiarly Buddhist, but the burden of a worldwide philosophy, for which salvation is essentially from ones-Self. Denegat seipsum ! Si quis . . . non odit animam suam, non potest meus dtscipulus esse! "The soul is the greatest of your enemies. "(AI Ghazali,Al Risalatal Laduniyya, ch. II.) "Were it not for the shackle, who would say `I am I’?"( Rumi, Mathnawi, I. 2449.)"

""Our essence is not annihilated there, for although we shall have there neither cognizance, nor love, nor beatitude, but there it becomes like unto a desert in which God alone reigns."( [[Meister Eckhart's "non existence," "well spring;' "desert" correspond to the Buddhist Sea (as discussed above) in which all differentiation is lost (cf. Nicolas of Cusa's definition of theosis as ablatlo omnis alteritatis et diversitatis) and to Rumi s "Sea" of Love or Non existence, the lover becoming there the Beloved (Matbnawi, 1. 504, 1109; 11. 688 690, 1103; 111. 4723; Vl. 2771 et passim, with Nicholson's notes).]] )"