Author Topic: Ecstatic Bliss, "Kundalini", Ariya, Virtue, Anandamaya Kosha  (Read 4055 times)

Jhanon

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So I found this article on the 5 koshas , apparently from Yoga. I was just curious about the article and I found a passage that said the 5th and final Kosha, or body, is the Anandamaya. Apparently they say it's the last thin veil between ordinary awareness and the "higher Self."

This appears to correlate to some extent with my GWV understanding. Which is that one generally experiences kundalini energy, or Kriya, just before meeting a white light, or as one is being almost propelled out of the physical body and into arupa jhana.

So, what I want to know is what can I do better to move more quickly toward experiencing Anandamaya, Kriya, kundalini, and energy--again. I say "again," because I can only recall one or two vivid experience of seriously ecstatic bliss and the rest of it's qualities in my 1.3 years of samadhi. And I've been trying to get there. Or trying to get there by not trying.

And it ain't happening. I have these milder Anandamaya experiences more often, but they are not even close to my memory of the vivid one. What's more, is that I don't experience "bliss, joy and ecstasy" during meditation. At least not in what I specifically consider to be bliss, joy and ecstasy (I've felt it before, and it's called Kriya). And yet we often speak of "the bliss, joy, and ecstasy" of meditation.

I'm confused, and a little disappointed. When I really started to study and practice diligently, I was after that first experience of pure ecstasy. My thought was rather simple: that the ecstasy of meditation was far superior to anything worldly, and so I would attain it regularly. But I'm not.

So, what more can I do? I meditate at least 20 mins a day, which isn't enough to make much progress, but lately I've been meditating 1-3 hours a day. But I don't think it should matter about time put in, or at least it didn't seem so. The really phenomenal, mostly first Anandamaya came while I was reading a book.

So, it seems I need to adjust something I'm doing--cuz this particular aspect is and has been important.
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Re: Ecstatic Bliss, "Kundalini", Kriya, Virtue, Anandamaya Kosha
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2014, 06:33:37 PM »
So I found this article on the 5 koshas , apparently from Yoga. I was just curious about the article and I found a passage that said the 5th and final Kosha, or body, is the Anandamaya. Apparently they say it's the last thin veil between ordinary awareness and the "higher Self."
Having the link to the article would help for us all to gain in a discussion on critical analysis of the article verses the GWV's perspective.  Most of what I have found in religious literature is profound translation errors going back thousands of years.
So, what I want to know is what can I do better to move more quickly toward experiencing Anandamaya, Kriya, kundalini, and energy--again. I say "again," because I can only recall one or two vivid experience of seriously ecstatic bliss and the rest of it's qualities in my 1.3 years of samadhi. And I've been trying to get there. Or trying to get there by not trying.

And it ain't happening. I have these milder Anandamaya experiences more often, but they are not even close to my memory of the vivid one. What's more, is that I don't experience "bliss, joy and ecstasy" during meditation. At least not in what I specifically consider to be bliss, joy and ecstasy (I've felt it before, and it's called Kriya). And yet we often speak of "the bliss, joy, and ecstasy" of meditation.

I'm confused, and a little disappointed. When I really started to study and practice diligently, I was after that first experience of pure ecstasy. My thought was rather simple: that the ecstasy of meditation was far superior to anything worldly, and so I would attain it regularly. But I'm not.

So, what more can I do? I meditate at least 20 mins a day, which isn't enough to make much progress, but lately I've been meditating 1-3 hours a day. But I don't think it should matter about time put in, or at least it didn't seem so. The really phenomenal, mostly first Anandamaya came while I was reading a book.

So, it seems I need to adjust something I'm doing--cuz this particular aspect is and has been important.
There are several problems as I see it in what you have just written.
1) Commonly there is a perceptual problem thinking that bliss, and ecstasy are some deeply emotional experience, which it is not.    Bliss and ecstasy are simply the terms used for a pleasurable experience within a contemplative/spiritual/ religious context.
2) Bliss and ecstasy are not black and white experiences, but have 8 shades of gray.
3) The genuine religious experience requires a dedicate lifestyle and lifetime to cultivate and hone.  One cannot expect significant results from a casual or inconsistent contemplative life.  Thus, if you want solid and consistent results, then you need to develop a solid and consistent contemplative lifestyle.
4) It is possible to have a religious experience that is not directly associated with the practice of meditation, which can serve to be somewhat confusing. 
5) Religious experiences can happen for anyone at anytime; however, one can cultivate the religious experience.
6) One leads a rigorous, self-aware contemplative life to cultivate the religious experience.
7) Cultivating the religious experience takes a lifetime of honing a rigorous, self-aware contemplative lifestyle.
There is no progress without discipline.

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