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Opioid addictions
« on: August 31, 2014, 05:45:31 AM »
In 2007 I was injured at work. Due to circumstances surrounding the events, I continued to work with these injuries, untreated. This compounded my problem. After finally making the decision to seek medical treatment, I was terminated. And so started my addiction to prescription pain medication. (My injuries were herniated discs in my back, 1 @ the neck, the other 2 in the low back. The other was a fractured ankle with a badly torn tendon.)

After 6 months of recovery time of my back injuries, I had worked my way up to a prescription of oxycodone. Employers viewed this as an "illegal drug" due to its schedule 2 classification from the DEA, making employment impossible while continuing to use the drug. The problem was, I was utterly addicted to them...they had absolute control over every choice, every thought, every movement I made. I used my injuries as excuse to the point that it nearly cost me my marriage, our home, and my daughters future. I continued to take them until our savings were exhausted and my wife was ready to leave me. I kept telling myself "I need them." "They make this easy....they make life easy."(The opiod, not my family) During this time, i was able to find Christianity. I have, since i was very young, been one who "thinks too much" and it didnt take long for me to realize how contradictory it was...but the morals therein were invaluable. I was able to stop taking the Opiod and return to work and life went on for awhile.

About a year later, the still not-taken-care of injuries in my ankle really started to make themselves known.  This was another excuse, yet it didnt matter, as I was very much a selfish being. I started seeing an orthopedic surgeon, and elected to have surgery. After the surgery I woke and immediately demanded that I have some sort of Narcotic pain medication. I had created a scenario in which I could "get away with" having my drugs. (Not to say that my ankle was not in need of some serious attention, only that I used this as an excuse.) This was the chapter of my life addicted to synthetic heroine, Oxycotin. The drug was so good and terrible, that I had to take an anti-nausea with it. (The surgeon that I had found, was one I knew from friends, that would give me whatever i wanted) So he prescribed me Promethazine for the nausea. I had since then let go of any ties that I had previously made with any kind of religion, and immersed myself into a world of gaming and just not giving a shit about anything but myself. (AGAIN)

I have been riding this roller-coaster of pain meds for 7 years now. It had, over the last year, come to the point that I was no longer being prescribed these drugs. Instead, I had been spending well over $800 monthly to buy my drugs, illegally. Thankfully, i was never given any kind of drug testing, and have been steadily employed. I say thankfully, yet, this is nothing to be thankfull for, I have been dishonest to myself, and my family for a long time. I cannot make it clear enough how instrumental meditative absorption has been in relinquishing the hold these drugs have had on me. I stopped taking a does of Hydrocodone, 10-12 pills per day (10/325's), cold turkey, 13 days ago. The inspiration to love I've gained from meditative absorption is beyond measure and I cannot thank this community enough for the guidance all of you have provided. I write this in hopes that my "open book" will provide a relation in which to progress from.

Sincerely,
Calvin
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Re: Opiod addictions
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2014, 12:41:18 PM »
These pain meds are fantastic. I'm not sure why everyone isn't addicted to them. But it shows how little people understand their own emotional states, or the demands they deal with every day.

If I admit the pains of my life, then I must seek a remedy. But, here is the problem. Most of the remedies are disappointing. If I have a bad day, I have to wait till the evening to get drunk. And, I have to face the same troubles tomorrow.

In the end, meditative absorption is the only way to do it. The ultimate relief for me came last October, when the mystic death reached its peak. Since that time, I have been pulled out of myself, liberated from myself. Now, I go about my day, and I am able to deal with the challenges and stress. There is no suffering, because there is no one here who can suffer anymore.
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Re: Opiod addictions
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2014, 01:26:30 PM »
The album Thirteenth Step by A Perfect Circle about drug use

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNdl_vOrPbM&index=1&list=PL1249CC5E5D4E3991
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2014, 06:55:55 PM »
These pain meds are fantastic. I'm not sure why everyone isn't addicted to them. But it shows how little people understand their own emotional states, or the demands they deal with every day.

If I admit the pains of my life, then I must seek a remedy. But, here is the problem. Most of the remedies are disappointing. If I have a bad day, I have to wait till the evening to get drunk. And, I have to face the same troubles tomorrow.

In the end, meditative absorption is the only way to do it. The ultimate relief for me came last October, when the mystic death reached its peak. Since that time, I have been pulled out of myself, liberated from myself. Now, I go about my day, and I am able to deal with the challenges and stress. There is no suffering, because there is no one here who can suffer anymore.

LOL! I agree, Alexander. Although I can't say there is no one here. There is the smallest shred of someone left, and they are hanging on, it seems, by way of a natural opioid.

Alexander, I'm pretty sure you just described arahantship, no? I know you are of higher attainment than me, although I didn't know it until now.

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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2014, 07:00:57 PM »
I would like to know more about what happened to you in October. I'm getting tired of all the crying and laughing, and I feel like it's just the tiniest little thing to finish the job--but at the same time I know to be humble and always doubt myself.

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2014, 07:42:03 PM »
Yes, maybe you are right. I told Jeffrey about it, but he didn't seem to know what I was talking about. But my "minute by minute" samadhi is identical to what John of the Cross describes in the DN. It is like an elevation of me out of myself, a state of absolute negation, a perfection of the spiritual consciousness. I want to say that there is no more "I" here, but that is not entirely true. Instead, "I" has been transformed in a dramatic way.

I would also describe it as a state of drunkenness. Certainly it was what I was searching for all along. It is like a shelter from the suffering of life.

But, I am still awaiting the out-of-body experience. You also possess many siddhis that I do not have. :) So I do not think it is black and white.
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2014, 07:52:39 PM »
I think using negative language is the better way to describe it. So I would rather say there is no I here, rather than I is transformed.
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2014, 08:12:54 PM »
It is interesting you call it similar to a state of drunkenness, though. So, as I mentioned, I have been using an herbal opioid for quite some time in order to cope with life. But, increasingly and gradually, I can't use it because it makes me nauseous. Even the smallest amount of nicotine makes me feel like shit. I wake up and I feel like I just took a psychedelic, even though it was half a day since I had the smallest of any substances. Nothing is worth it except samadhi, but even samadhi ain't that fantastic. It's just the one with the least amount of unwanted side effects. I'm not really depressed about though. It's just like "Shit. What now?" I went to the park, and just blasted off. I just press the button, and everything becomes movement and light. I don't even close my eyes. The birds, and sky, and breezes are nicer than usual, but temporary. What I'm trying to say is that there isn't any refuge! Nothing, not even food. It all fucks you in the end. I don't mean that in a bad way--I'm just saying. My body feels like it's dying or something. Maybe it is. But why? I don't recall any teaching about the body feeling like death.

Anyway, I don't presume to have the same state as you--but I wanted to share since it was related. It just feels unusual, man. I've done a lot of different drugs in my life--most of which were prescribed; but I've never felt like this. I don't know what to think or do.
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Re: Opiod addictions
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2014, 08:13:49 PM »
I'm glad you feel you've found what you're looking for. But I didn't note you saying these things until recently. Was there a delay in understanding?

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2014, 08:42:33 PM »
What is interesting is I attained it not by any meditative technique, but from an eclipse of my contradictions and personal strife. I simply went with it and dropped the resistance. Of course it took time. I embraced my hatred of myself, of the world, of the body; of all the people around me; of my limitations and flaws. Then it was the friction of my many lies and falsehoods, and the acting I do for all the people around me -- and then I had a violent victory, my essential goodness just pulled me out of myself.
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2014, 08:47:53 PM »
Also, I am not sure who Ansala is, however you may not get my response since I'm not sure the email to forum to email works.
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2014, 08:49:54 PM »
It is interesting you call it similar to a state of drunkenness, though. So, as I mentioned, I have been using an herbal opioid for quite some time in order to cope with life. But, increasingly and gradually, I can't use it because it makes me nauseous. Even the smallest amount of nicotine makes me feel like shit. I wake up and I feel like I just took a psychedelic, even though it was half a day since I had the smallest of any substances. Nothing is worth it except samadhi, but even samadhi ain't that fantastic. It's just the one with the least amount of unwanted side effects.

Oh, I recognize this. Puked my organs out while on the Oxycotin, even after being prescribed the anti nausea medication. It was even the same effect with nicotine. The whole experience I had intense feelings of being trapped. It was not easy to overcome.

I'm going to be honest, I used no "method" or "replacement" to overcome, only sheer willpower. I might add, that there have been "breaks" in my struggle with addiction. The oxycotin was replaced with nothing, then nothing was replaced with another form of opiate, etc.

Meditation...no not meditation. Jhana, samahdi, the "knowing" of something more, is at this time, enough to drop them. I feel a pull, ever so slightly, that worldly things do not matter. It get stronger with every passing day.

I also said in another post, that my ego is a bastard. It, "I", have a need to be in control, to be right. I've tapped it and am using its momentum as well.

Love and Identity also play a role. "What sort of man lives a lie?" "How can you look into the eyes of your children, and tell them what is best for them? When you seek escape, and self comfort." I have been contemplating things like this, and I confront them honestly.

So maybe it isnt accurate to say that I don't use a method. The method I am using now is absorption, contemplation of the spiritual, critical inward thinking, and willpower.

I am in physical pain always, intense pain. Some of that goes away other parts get easier, but I am in a very uncomfortable physical state, right now. The only time that I am not, is around the third Jhana-it is intensly blissful, but i think the pain is still there.

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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2014, 08:51:45 PM »
I'm glad you feel you've found what you're looking for. But I didn't note you saying these things until recently. Was there a delay in understanding?

I have made several references to this state before. I had some idea of what was going on when it was happening. I think in the beginning there was a definite element of fantasy I had, but when the new consciousness stayed and didn't go away I realized I had attained something big.
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2014, 09:08:50 PM »
Alexander, you said "of course is takes time", by this you mean it was subtle? Each day, or each moment of change would manifest as a "difference" and the choice made would be known. But the choice made was not something that you made, it was accepted. And when it was accepted, it was relinquished. All without a choice ever being made.

This is what I've started to experience, and I described it as "pulling slightly" as im a dumb ass, and dont know your guys' fancy words. xD

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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2014, 09:20:23 PM »
Actually, when it began it was extremely painful. And there was no hope in sight. Even though I had read John of the Cross, without direct experience of the state I am in now, I never would have thought it existed. I also would not have thought it was accessed in the way I accessed it. But, now it all makes sense to me. I understand especially why asceticism, celibacy, austerity, loneliness, hardness, severity, and so on are all critical to the spiritual life. Because only by embracing these things can you be pulled out of the world of the body/matter and into the world of the spirit. "The kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force" says Christ. I am sorry if I am being overly complex. I want to explain it as best I can.
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