Fruit of the Contemplative Life
Fruit of the contemplative life: => Insight => : Alexander June 01, 2023, 07:18:24 PM
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Christ
Enlightenment, lion, Form of wisdom
Siddhartha
Enlightenment, elephant, OOBE facility
Mohammed
Enlightenment, osprey, Form of wisdom
Jhanananda
Enlightenment, elephant, OOBE facility
Teresa of Avila
Enlightenment, owl
John of the Cross
Enlightenment, swan
St. Denis
Enlightenment, elephant
Ramana Maharshi
Enlightenment, elephant
John the beloved apostle
Enlightenment, eagle
Socrates
Crow, Form of wisdom
Bob Monroe
Mountain lion, OOBE facility
Yogananda
Mountain lion, OOBE facility
Notes
*Yogananda and Bob Monroe did not achieve immortality
*Everyone who reached enlightenment realized their individual self was identical to the universal Self
*Christ achieved Deification (enlightenment + lion)
Website link https://alexanderlorincz.com/index.php/articles/discernment-of-teachers
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Notes
*Hm I have to ponder Teresa of Avila actually. Did she have OOBE facility? The problem is if she did I think she hid it. She didn’t want to be accused of heresy. I’ll investigate
In her writings, Teresa of Avila does not explicitly mention experiences of being transported to other planes of reality beyond her encounters with God and divine visions. Her focus was primarily on her spiritual journey, union with God, and the transformation of her soul.
Teresa of Avila's descriptions of her mystical experiences often involve a sense of being transported outside of herself and experiencing profound spiritual states. She wrote about experiencing raptures, ecstasies, and visions, which she understood as moments of deep union with the divine. These experiences were intense and transformative, but she mainly described them in the context of her relationship with God rather than as journeys to other realms or planes of reality. (ChatGPT)
Hm I want to say she did not have out of body experiences
*Everyone on this table except Bob Monroe is immortal
Everyone who reached enlightenment realized their individual self was identical to the universal Self
Christ achieved Deification (enlightenment + lion)
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Hm the avatars of Shiva and Kali would be
Shiva
Enlightenment, lion, Form of wisdom
Kali
Enlightenment, tiger, Form of beauty
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Hm if you have to choose it’s better to go for the Form of wisdom over the out of body experience
It’s less fun but with the Form you have all the knowledge of the experience without having gone through any of it
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Some anticipated arahants
Lesley
Enlightenment, elephant, Form of wisdom
Sydney
Enlightenment, elephant
Tad
Enlightenment, elephant, Form of wisdom
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“Whenever there is a decline in righteousness and an increase in unrighteousness, O Arjuna, then I manifest Myself on earth." (Vishnu, Bhagavad Gita 4.7)
Accurate
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I will see if I can discern Vishnu’s attainment. It may be closed to me
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So you can see we only have eight arahants in 2500 years of history
It’s not a great record
Hopefully it’s only uphill from here
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Hm so Jeff was the most spiritually advanced person on the planet until February
So there are only two* arahants on earth right now. This is sad
*possibly three if Alexandra is playing a game with me🤔in that case three, which isn’t too bad actually
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Hm this is the first time everything’s been explained. Everyone’s been going blind for 2000 years
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Hm all the arahants were either white or Indian
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Hm I’m surprised there is no Hindu arahant. Outside of Ramana Maharshi
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Hm you would need 5 arahants to actively begin converting the human population
Pondering the logistics of it
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Vishnu must have been
Enlightenment, lion, Form of wisdom
That appears to be the archetype of the avatar
Though I’ll abstain from adding him to the list because it’s not in the historical record
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Hm if Alexandra is Kali it would be the first incident of the Form of beauty in history
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There’s so much hidden in the world. And no one’s discovered any of it
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Hm you would need 5 arahants to actively begin converting the human population
Pondering the logistics of it
Hm so we could have
Jhanananda, Alexander, Alexandra (?), Lesley, Sydney, and Tad
That would bring us to 6 in an ideal situation
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Siddhartha 500 BC
Christ 0 AD
St. Denis 300 AD
Mohammed 600 AD
Teresa of Avila 1500 AD
John of the Cross 1500 AD
Ramana Maharshi 1900 AD
Jhanananda 2000 AD
Hm it’s not a great record. Should be more people
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“Birthdays” of the avatars
Vishnu 1500 BC
Shiva 1000 BC
Christ 0 AD
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It appears Vishnu and Shiva were nonreturners (deities birthed in the Pure Abodes) who achieved self-realization
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Ok so the world is not as old as I feared based on this
Actually it looks quite optimistic
We’ve hit a little ditch right now spiritually but overall humanity is evolving
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Hm so this will be the first articulation of the Natural Religion
Everyone’s just been working with fragments of it for centuries
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I wonder if there’s anything I’m missing
I’ll keep inquiring
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“Birthdays” of the avatars
Vishnu 1500 BC
Shiva 1000 BC
Christ 0 AD
How does the “age” of the Deities relate to our human understanding of time and the age of the universe? I’ll ponder it
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*Added Bob Monroe
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You may be limited to only one spiritual gift
So it might be a choice between the Form of wisdom or OOBE facility
I'll continue to contemplate it
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How does the “age” of the Deities relate to our human understanding of time and the age of the universe? I’ll ponder it
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I used to think the big deities like Vishnu, Shiva, Kali, etc might be Human Yogis also but Baglamukhi Kali was very assertive about telling me that she was an extraterrestrial. She eventually appeared in my worship room physically about a year and a half ago, like the apparitions of the Virgin Mary you can see online, for about a week, in her alien saurian form and allowed me to photograph her then left. I realize now that I probably cannot understand who these big deities are.
-David
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How does the “age” of the Deities relate to our human understanding of time and the age of the universe? I’ll ponder it
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I used to think the big deities like Vishnu, Shiva, Kali, etc might be Human Yogis also but Baglamukhi Kali was very assertive about telling me that she was an extraterrestrial. She eventually appeared in my worship room physically about a year and a half ago, like the apparitions of the Virgin Mary you can see online, for about a week, in her alien saurian form and allowed me to photograph her then left. I realize now that I probably cannot understand who these big deities are.
-David
You must continue to cultivate the power of discernment, Dave
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Thank you Alex, if you want more details on my experiences with the 8th Kali let me know :-)
-David
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Hello Alexander,
You have some unique insights. I think there are probably a bunch of other arahants and pacceka buddhas that we just never heard. For well known contemporary figures, I would add Ajahn Maha Bua to the list. His teachings about the eternal mind is proof in my opinion.
BTW, thanks for adding Tad to the list of anticipated arahants. Still a very long road ahead... :)
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Hello Alexander,
You have some unique insights. I think there are probably a bunch of other arahants and pacceka buddhas that we just never heard. For well known contemporary figures, I would add Ajahn Maha Bua to the list. His teachings about the eternal mind is proof in my opinion.
BTW, thanks for adding Tad to the list of anticipated arahants. Still a very long road ahead... :)
The past weeks I've been possessed by the insights which have spilled out of me. What is comprehensible I have tried to formulate into lists and tables
I'll continue to work and process everything
Yes as I wrote it appears you are fated for arahantship. Keep doing whatever you are doing ;D
Currently I am investigating the kundalini phenomenon, which is something I've neglected up till now
*Edit: This is my current draft on that as of now:
The coiled serpent
Gopi Krishna - 1 experience
Robert Bruce - 1
Jhanananda - ?
Sivananda - 1
Rougeleader - ?
Yogananda - 1
*Number of experiences stated unless unknown due to poor documentation
*Gopi Krishna: experienced it spontaneously while meditating and imagining a glowing lotus radiating out of the crown of his head
*Robert Bruce: experienced it spontaneously during a meditation session in the late 1970s
*Yogananda: experienced it spontaneously while meditating in a cemetery
*Shiva Samhita: recommends concentrating on the root chakra at the base of the spine; recommends maintaining a calm and focused mind
*It appears to awaken only once and to be a spontaneous phenomenon
*While transformative, it does not appear to grant de facto nonreturning
*It appears to have little impact on fame or celebrity as opposed to the other spiritual gifts (ie contemplation)