Fruit of the Contemplative Life

Fruit of the contemplative life: => Ecstatic Buddhism => : Jhanananda March 21, 2012, 01:03:06 PM

: No Mind
: Jhanananda March 21, 2012, 01:03:06 PM
No-mind is a term that appears in Zen Buddhism.  There the followers of Zen make a big deal out of no mind, which is just the stilling of the mind.  While stilling of the mind seems to be a difficult thing for most Buddhist priests, for the mystics that have posted their case histories here, the stilling of the mind is fairly easy, we enjoy it, and we find it is just an entry point to deeper meditation experiences.  Here is a link to a video on this subject: No-mind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiIdWhbTOVE)
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: Luke Avedon January 21, 2013, 12:55:26 AM
One of my favorite videos
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: Cal August 29, 2015, 12:43:13 AM
Jhananada you said in the video that none of the mainstream meditation leaders agree on what Jhana is. How is it that so many of us here agree on what it is? The levels of jhana are distinct and different. To me, that should leave no doubt in the mainstreams minds. I agree with you, they dont know what jhana is.
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: Jhanananda August 29, 2015, 03:49:15 AM
Yes, Cal, I agree with you, the mainstream meditation leaders clearly do not know what jhana is, if they believe that it is a practice, or a meditation technique and not the experience of deep meditation, which means no mainstream meditation leader meditates deeply.
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: PeacefulDodo September 19, 2015, 10:25:22 PM
Sometimes it is easy, sometimes it is hard, im not sure if the ease of stilling or calming the mind (not pure stillness, just mostly still) is related to mindfulness or dwelling in pure awareness throughout the day.  All i can concur is when the mind is still experiences arise, which i have learnt to call jhana, maybe it would be better to say that when the mind is calm experiences arise (1st) and when it is still that is more 2nd jhana.  I can't speak further than that as i have not been further.

The music of the spheres that you talk about in the video Jeffrey is that the auditory charism?  Because that is something that seems to be present with me mostly all the time, always as a high pitched tone, often with another lower pitched tone present as well, sometimes as many as 3 different tones all going off at the same time.  Often i get a random ringing in the "ear" but it's more from no source it's kind of everywhere, and it can come in pulses like Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.  Sort of random, haven't had that before the other day hah. 
: Re: No Mind
: Jhanananda September 20, 2015, 02:40:09 AM
Sometimes it is easy, sometimes it is hard, im not sure if the ease of stilling or calming the mind (not pure stillness, just mostly still) is related to mindfulness or dwelling in pure awareness throughout the day.  All i can concur is when the mind is still experiences arise, which i have learnt to call jhana, maybe it would be better to say that when the mind is calm experiences arise (1st) and when it is still that is more 2nd jhana.  I can't speak further than that as i have not been further.

I agree

The music of the spheres that you talk about in the video Jeffrey is that the auditory charism?  Because that is something that seems to be present with me mostly all the time, always as a high pitched tone, often with another lower pitched tone present as well, sometimes as many as 3 different tones all going off at the same time.  Often i get a random ringing in the "ear" but it's more from no source it's kind of everywhere, and it can come in pulses like Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.  Sort of random, haven't had that before the other day hah.

Yes, the music of the spheres is the auditory charism, and it sounds like you are hearing it in various frequencies, as many mystics report.