Author Topic: Struggling with aversion / effort (viriya) / discipline  (Read 3116 times)

WilliamW

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Struggling with aversion / effort (viriya) / discipline
« on: February 01, 2017, 02:41:25 AM »
Just thought I'd ask to see if anyone here had sutta references, commentaries, or personal advice on these subjects. I think I have a decent understanding of both meditation practice and Buddhist philosophy, and they've helped me a lot in dealing with (e.g.) fear and anger -- remembrance of anatta, metta, upekkha is very valuable for me -- but it's been difficult to find a direct antidote for "I kind of don't want to do this".

So I need to do some paperwork (for example), and thinking about it brings up unpleasant feelings and I avoid it. How should I think about this? Does the Buddha address self-discipline, work, effort etc. in this context?

 It's sort of the opposite of clinging or desire, and so reminding myself "this is causing you suffering; maintain equanimity" sort of helps -- but it's still like... knowing something is bad for you, but wanting it anyway: "I shouldn't eat this donut" might help, but you still want the donut; similarly,"I shouldn't avoid these feelings" doesn't go too far in making them less strongly unpleasant. Surely this is born of a wrong view, somehow...

Remembering discourses on impermanence and not-self made the anxiety I used to suffer essentially evaporate; I am hoping to find similarly effective words to remember when I need to be diligent. Thanks for reading, and thanks in advance for any advice.
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Re: Struggling with aversion / effort (viriya) / discipline
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2017, 08:14:18 AM »
Diligence is something we have to self-cultivate. Aversion arises when senses make contact with feelings like "I don't like this". Imo, it's about letting go of aversion as a mental object and releasing the bodily agitation along with it. Want to get up from the sit? Release it. Itchiness and hypersensitivity? Release it. Procrastination? Release it anyway. Compulsions, neuroses, addictions, whatever it is that stops us from skillful meditation, release them - they are hindrances.

Just go back to the meditation object, whatever it is - the high-pitched jhana nimitta, or the joy/bliss...

Jhanananda often translates viriya as 'kundalini', meaning literally energy.

I feel like no one should force you to be diligent. You need to understand how much you are suffering. Imo, if you aren't diligent enough, you have not cleared doubt about your path and you need to see the truth in suffering and the consequences of not reaching the cessation of suffering. Should you see that every sit might really be your last, since you cannot tell the future or when the world might end, then we must feel that urgency of finding the solution to our problem.

I'm not too sure about the sutta quotes, but I'm quite positive the Buddha continually repeats that one has to exercise Right Effort.
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Re: Struggling with aversion / effort (viriya) / discipline
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2017, 05:44:14 PM »
To me, diligence is the definition of right effort, the 6th fold. 

We also find here that those who find the deep meditation experience, and learn to cultivate it, find their addictions, and obsessive behaviors, just drop away.
There is no progress without discipline.

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