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Valdy

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One of them
« on: February 26, 2012, 12:02:07 AM »
One past life I saw was about 2000 years ago, maybe in the Mediteranian, I was watching lava flowing up a very small hill, when something fell down infront of me. I was curious to see what it was and noticed that it was a body.

Lava flowed around the body and I was a little preturbed to see that it was my body.

It was interesting to think that the man would not have known why he died, but I pressume it was a lack of oxegen or some fumes in the air, good thing to remember :-)

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Re: One of them
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 01:42:07 PM »
Thanks, Valdy, for sharing with us a past lifetime recollection.  Over the 4 decades of my contemplative life I have recalled 10s of thousands of past lifetimes, and in most cases it is a recollection of the death.  This means I have died 10s of thousands of times in this lifetime.  It makes death mean little.
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Re: One of them
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 06:04:34 PM »
Another method in which I have seen past lives is in a lucid dream watching a TV screen and have hundreds of faces go past the screen,only staying on the screen for about a tenth of a second.

Two of the people I reckognized as currently living in the same town as me.

This was back in 1980 and also happened about a year ago only more vividly.

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Re: One of them
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2012, 01:10:47 PM »
At my first 10-day meditation retreat I had a similar experience of seeing past lives go by, one after another, as if on a TV screen.  Tens of 1,000 went by, but they were all mine.
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Re: One of them
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2012, 01:42:20 AM »
Another method in which I have seen past lives is in a lucid dream watching a TV screen and have hundreds of faces go past the screen,only staying on the screen for about a tenth of a second.

Two of the people I reckognized as currently living in the same town as me.

This was back in 1980 and also happened about a year ago only more vividly.

I don't understand. If two of those people lived in your town why do you think you were recalling past lives?

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Re: One of them
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2012, 01:10:56 AM »
I am not sure, Soren, if Valdy will be back on the forum soon, so I will attempt to respond to your question.

I have had many past lifetime recollections, and often I find that people I know in this lifetime I have had some connection with in a previous lifetime.  So, I believe this is what Valdy was saying.
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Re: One of them
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2014, 04:46:35 AM »
One past life I saw was about 2000 years ago, maybe in the Mediteranian, I was watching lava flowing up a very small hill, when something fell down infront of me. I was curious to see what it was and noticed that it was a body.

Lava flowed around the body and I was a little preturbed to see that it was my body.

It was interesting to think that the man would not have known why he died, but I pressume it was a lack of oxegen or some fumes in the air, good thing to remember :-)

This, this here. this makes it believe I am true. You valdy, seen it fall, and you still observe.

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Re: One of them
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2016, 08:39:45 PM »
Lately the topic of past lives has been of greater interest to me as I feel that much of my habitual patterning is no longer coming from family and social cultural conditioning of this life put instead a previous one.  I've been hindered though by not maintaining daily consistency of communing deeply in meditation and my remembrances come from short dreams and intuitions.

In this life one of my greatest fears has been an obsession with society running out of fossil fuel energy and descending into chaos.  This has obsessed me so much that not only have I spent some time intentionally working within coal, oil and renewable energy industries but also have spent countless hours dreaming of post fossil solar integrated energy systems.  After working within those industries I slowly realized this fear driven obsession is irrational and began exploring the root origin.  I don't expect anyone to believe it, but I think that in my previous life I was helping sweeden in WWII efforts overcome oil shortages they faced and worked extensively with forestry and biogas production.   And prior to that I was killed in WWI conflict. 

I really think my obsessive fears and anxieties of this culture collapsing have their origin in my previous lives in war torn europe.   Nothing bad or traumatic has happened to me at all in this life and yet I have been crippled at times by fears and anxiety that I can only rationalize if I start to connect some ephemeral dreams and intuitions together.


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Re: One of them
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2016, 05:58:21 PM »
Your concern, roamer, reminds me of the Cassandra Syndrome.  Here, the "sufferer" is aware of the future but is powerless to make any changes to the course of the future.

If the fossil fuel industry had not so been active with hijacking the progress of development in alternative energy and fuel, then we surely would not be so dependent upon fossil fuels.  However, after learning of the Carrington Event I am convinced that globally we are all at risk of the collapse of the industrial revolution, and a diversity of energy sources is not going to prevent the collapse of the industrial revolution.
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Re: One of them
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2016, 06:56:17 PM »
Yes I have a bit of the cassandra syndrome, but I also realize mostly its been a waste of time and energy and is symptomatic of a fetter.  The fetter is fear and the fear comes from a previous experience imo, but origin matters little the cure is simple absorption and full release.

Having worked for both the fossil fuel and renewable energy industries i do not buy into the simple notion that the evil fossil fuel companies stalled out renewable energy.  The problem is that we as a society became addicted to the ease of fossil powered mechanization and the luxuries of centralized society.  Post WWII those luxuries were well distributed and a majority enjoyed them, now we question those choices as a ruling elite reap the majority of the benefits.  Where I object with most renewable energy arguments is the notion that we can have our cake and eat it too.  We can not enjoy the wealth and material gluttony a fossil rich post WWII economy created if we run our country on renewable energy.  The structure must become more decentralized, our homes much much smaller, our transportation minimized, nothing short of a cultural conversion to a different way of life.  Carter explored this path and it was given the feedback the public had no such will to revert. Solar tech has evolved since then, perhaps it could have evolved faster with more money, but still under no forseeable circumstances will it match the profound material gluttony our culture has adapted too.  The reason renewable was not developed is because it undermines the fabric of the existing power structures and demands a deep cultural change.  It is not as simple as one greedy industry blocking another, it is as deep as the very fabric of industrialism itself.

Yes a carrington event looks like it would cripple current industrialism.  A very good reminder of how fragile and precarious our little sand kingdoms are here on earth, great motivation to seek refuge in the eternal and infinite.

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Re: One of them
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2016, 07:01:39 PM »
Yes I have a bit of the cassandra syndrome, but I also realize mostly its been a waste of time and energy and is symptomatic of a fetter.  The fetter is fear and the fear comes from a previous experience imo, but origin matters little the cure is simple absorption and full release.

I agree with this.

Having worked for both the fossil fuel and renewable energy industries i do not buy into the simple notion that the evil fossil fuel companies stalled out renewable energy. 

I disagree with this, since energy research is more often than not funded by corporations, which are heavily invested in fossil fuels, then who is going to put any money into research into a replacement for fossil fuels?

The problem is that we as a society became addicted to the ease of fossil powered mechanization and the luxuries of centralized society.  Post WWII those luxuries were well distributed and a majority enjoyed them, now we question those choices as a ruling elite reap the majority of the benefits. 

I agree with this, but as an advocate for alternative energy, and a retired research scientist, who rarely saw any significant research into alternative energy, I then have to conclude that research into alternative energy was hijacked by fossil fuel interests.

Where I object with most renewable energy arguments is the notion that we can have our cake and eat it too.  We can not enjoy the wealth and material gluttony a fossil rich post WWII economy created if we run our country on renewable energy.  The structure must become more decentralized, our homes much much smaller, our transportation minimized, nothing short of a cultural conversion to a different way of life. 

I agree with this; however, I will agree that conservation and decentralization are critical aspects of an economy that is supported by alternative energy.

Carter explored this path and it was given the feedback the public had no such will to revert.

I disagree.  If the Carter solar credits remained in place, and were expanded it include all alternative energy modalities, then we would have arrived at a robust, long-term decentralization energy solution.

Solar tech has evolved since then, perhaps it could have evolved faster with more money, but still under no forseeable circumstances will it match the profound material gluttony our culture has adapted too. 

Well, yes solar energy development has progressed; however, solar power will never replace centralized power production, because it does not meet peek grid demand, because peek solar gain is 10AM to 2PM; whereas, peek grid demand is 6AM-10AM and 4PM to 8PM, when solar gain is at its lowest.  Nonetheless, other alternative energy modalities, such as wind and tidal are at peek during peek demand; thus a diverse alternative energy solution would meet the diversity of demand.

The reason renewable was not developed is because it undermines the fabric of the existing power structures and demands a deep cultural change.  It is not as simple as one greedy industry blocking another, it is as deep as the very fabric of industrialism itself.

Yes, I agree with this.  I often say that the fabric of all civilizations is utter and complete corruption.

Yes a carrington event looks like it would cripple current industrialism.  A very good reminder of how fragile and precarious our little sand kingdoms are here on earth, great motivation to seek refuge in the eternal and infinite.

I agree.
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Re: One of them
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2016, 07:17:48 PM »

I disagree with this, since energy research is more often than not funded by corporations, which are heavily invested in fossil fuels, then who is going to put any money into research into a replacement for fossil fuels?


What I was trying to get at was that it wasn't just a research funding problem, though that is part of it.   Like i said the Carter administration tried to push the path towards renewables and not only did the fossil corps fight back, but so too did a lethargic spoiled populace who was unwilling to lose too many comforts.


I disagree.  If the Carter solar credits remained in place, and were expanded it include all alternative energy modalities, then we would have arrived at a robust, long-term decentralization energy solution.

I agree that if the solar credits would have stayed in place we would have much mor evolved decentralized renewable energy solutions.  Its just that both our culture lacked the will to do so and as you point out fossil fuel corps attacked funding.  I think the only area we differ is that you seem to think the public had little to do in this, where as I think our collective ignorance and apathy had alot to do with it.

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Re: One of them
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2016, 02:06:20 PM »
I agree that if the solar credits would have stayed in place we would have much mor evolved decentralized renewable energy solutions.  Its just that both our culture lacked the will to do so and as you point out fossil fuel corps attacked funding.  I think the only area we differ is that you seem to think the public had little to do in this, where as I think our collective ignorance and apathy had alot to do with it.

I agree.
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