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Anastasis
« on: May 05, 2014, 04:06:41 PM »
Anastasis

“One must abide in this sepulcher of dark death until the spiritual resurrection which is hoped for.” -St. John of the Cross

An immortal embraces sterility.
A virile one, he becomes despicable
And inhuman, a hater of life
Who castrates himself
To become a father.

He drinks from the cup of trembling—
Makes a tree of the living wood.
Hanging from it, he laments in anguish
His fate.

Through the retention of semen
He gives birth
Through the pain of labor.
He does this from himself alone.

This is the suicide of the most excellent man:
The one who sacrifices all,
Who assails the self with every violence.

Those abyssal waters!
That afflictive blackness!
To be no longer human
But not yet divine.
It is not a pain of the body.
It is not a pain of the mind.
Sighs do not relieve it, and
Neither do groans or cries.
The spirit is torn in this—
Taken out of itself,
Ravished, and rent.

But how can we fear this death,
This long entombment,
When it precedes the true life?
Let us join Christ
And forsake this house.

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Re: On Anastasis
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2014, 07:19:58 PM »
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anastasis From Ancient Greek ἀνάστασις (anástasis, “resurrection”).

anastasis (plural anastases)
1.A recovery from a debilitating condition, especially irradiation of human tissue.
2.Rebirth.
3.(Christianity) Resurrection, especially the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Which book of John of the Cross did you get the above verses from?
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Re: On Anastasis
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2014, 09:26:00 PM »
I have been working on this poem for some time. The subject it deals with is very heavy, as it deals with the topic of immortality, and the relationship between it and the dark night of the soul. The content of the poem may be uncomfortable. But it is important to deal with all the parts of the dark night, since they exist not independently but in a relationship with one another. Simultaneously we have male sexuality, death, suicide, contempt of self, self-negation, and self-sacrifice: and, on the other hand, immortality.

As you can see, John of the Cross is the major influence on this work. Aside from the initial quote from him ("In this sepulcher of dark death must one abide..."), there are references to his writing:

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Those abyssal waters!
That afflictive blackness!

These images of water and darkness are major images of John of the Cross:

"[A]t times the waters make such inundations that they overwhelm and fill everything" (Ch IX)

"The Divine assails the soul (...) and absorbs it in deep and profound darkness" (Ch VI)

"[L]eaving it empty and in darkness, it purges and illumines it with Divine spiritual light, although the soul thinks not that it has this light, but believes itself to be in darkness" (Ch VIII)

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To be no longer human
But not yet divine.

This is from one of his meditations:

"Having attained liberty of spirit (...) it (the soul) went forth from low things to high; from terrestial, it became celestial; from human, Divine." (Ch XXII)

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It is not a pain of the body.
It is not a pain of the mind.
Sighs do not relieve it, and
Neither do groans or cries.

These lines are a more vague reference to John of the Cross. And, arguably, he is getting his concept here from the Old Testament:

"This roaring implies great pain (...) filling it (the soul) with spiritual pain and anguish in all its deep affections and energies, to an extent surpassing all possibility of exaggeration" (Ch IX)

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And forsake this house with its domestics

This refers to the abduction of the spirit out of oneself when it deals with the violence of the dark night:

"It was a happy chance for this soul that on this night God should put to sleep all the domestics in the house - that is, all the faculties, passions, affections and desires which live in the soul, both sensually and spiritually" (Ch XIV)

There are other references in the poem, not to John of the Cross:

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He drinks from the cup of trembling

Isaiah

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Makes a tree of the living wood.

The Tarot

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This long entombment,

The narrative of Christ's burial, entombment, and resurrection: understood mystically.

Another thing I had in mind as I wrote it, although it may not be so clear, is the Paschal Troparion:

"Christ is risen from the dead,
Trampling down death by death,
And upon those in the tombs
Bestowing life!"

This is from a very old, more mysterious, Greek Christianity.
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2014, 10:58:12 AM »
aglorincz, I have read your poem several times.  I find it speaks most to the discipline needed to succeed in the contemplative life, which requires traversing the spiritual crisis.
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Re: On Anastasis
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2014, 04:52:37 PM »
A final concept to the poem is that it is about a man giving birth. This is a very disquieting image. What is he giving birth to? That is a good question to ask.

More than him giving birth, the man is sterile (celibate). What does this mean?

In the final lines:

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There is but one way for a man to become immortal:
Through this imitation of God.

In theology, God is a completely unique, solitary being. But, despite his isolation, out of God emanates the whole universe.
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2014, 11:17:09 AM »
In theology, God is a completely unique, solitary being. But, despite his isolation, out of God emanates the whole universe.
If that is the case, then God is female.
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Re: On Anastasis
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2014, 05:53:09 PM »
I have decided to change the final lines of the poem. On reflection I did not think the meaning was clear. The updated version is posted.
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Re: On Anastasis
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2014, 07:50:49 PM »
Another thought:

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He drinks from the cup of trembling

References not only Isaiah but the New Testament:

"You don't know what you are asking," Jesus said to them. "Can you drink the cup I am going to drink?" "We can," they answered. (Mt 20:22)

"Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done." (Lk 22:42)

Jesus commanded Peter, "Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?" (Jn 18:11)

"You don't know what you are asking," Jesus said. "Can you drink the cup I drink or be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with?" (Mk 10:38)

The cup is referred to by Christ in all of the Gospels. He refers to it prior to the crucifixion. We can understand it mystically as something hard that must be imbibed.
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2014, 12:33:55 PM »
Oh, I like the change, because taking up a contemplative life to become a mystic tends to get one marginalized in any religion, as we have seen.
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Re: Anastasis
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 01:12:12 AM »
I will also omit "On" from the title.
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Re: Anastasis
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2015, 11:05:02 PM »
This is what your Sovereign LORD says, your God, who defends his people: "See, I have taken out of your hand the cup that made you stagger; from that cup, the goblet of my wrath, you will never drink again. (Isaiah 51:22)

Awake, awake! Rise up, Jerusalem, you who have drunk from the hand of the LORD the cup of his wrath, you who have drained to its dregs the goblet that makes people stagger. (Isaiah 51:17)
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Re: Anastasis
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2015, 12:59:33 AM »
Those who cannot be disciplined must be forced to be so.  Otherwise I am becoming more certain every day that the cause of type 2 diabetes is due to not sprouting, then fermenting all grains and beans prior to eating them.
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