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Re: Cal's Meditation and Mystical Experience Records
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2014, 07:45:24 PM »
I've begun relying on intuition, in the form of a kundalini sensation proceeding a thought of a path, a direction, or an action. It reminds me of a thread, with discussion of sychronicity. Although I cant say there have been any "simultaneous occurrence of events" associated directly with this. Only, there have been indicators that have only been realized in reflection. For example, I will note in my journal that I experienced kundalini after bringing thought to a specific course of action. Later I will revisit this entry, or post and realize that it was the correct course in which to follow. Now I may be able to disprove this, and instead attribute it to contemplation and guidance, yet none of this explains the kundalini...is this a religous phenomena?

One specific intuition that I speak of, was to ask Jhanananda's help and guidance in retrieving repressed memories, of this life. Ones of my childhood. The context of progression was recollection of past lives and deeply rooted traits(ego). The kundalini sensation came when I brought to thought "he would be able to do so". It also came when the thought "those memories are the key to progression".

Hi Cal,

As I demonstrated in the "Totality if Charismatic Body and Phenomena" thread, it has been my experience that kundalini is accompanied by direct two way communication to the highest Force available. I consider it paramount to pursue such communication.

http://fruitofthecontemplativelife.org/forum/index.php/topic,816.msg4224.html#new

A little over 4 years of experience is the basis of my affirmation. I used to make music following the kundalini communication line throughout the entire construction of a song. It was blissful.

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Re: Cal's Meditation and Mystical Experience Records
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2014, 07:53:52 PM »
Yea I read that, thanks man =) Some of it is unknown to me, yet other parts of it are clear as day.

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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2014, 08:23:42 PM »
The first meditation sit of today produced 4th Jhana. While just "being" I was aware of visual phenomena under the eyelids, as in other meditation sits, yet I was more observant. It appears the "darkness" is of lower realms, and the "light" is of the higher realms. I've also noticed something of a "tunnel" when moving very quickly towards the distinctions. There also appears to be hues of darkness and light. for example on the other side of the first upward tunnel was of a goldish hue, while the one above was closer to that of a dulled snow white. I have no idea why my mind wishes to view the lower, yet it did.

It's been my repeat experience that in jhana we dive into deeper layers of normally unconscious conditioning. Each deeper jhana corresponds with deeper stillness and therefor more apparent experience of that conditioning. As you also know, our unconscious conditioning comes from our past beliefs and thoughts. What our unconscious conditioning for each layer/jhana resonates with will then lead to manifestation of it. In other words, if the majority of your major beliefs and thoughts from the past resonate with lower level beings, then you will most often experience lower level beings and phenomena in samadhi/jhana until it is resolved.

Also, since lower level beings have greater ignorance and lack of clarity, this is likely to explain the "3rd eye" obscurity. Despite this, If you left the body, it would most likely be clearer. Additionally, in my experience, a lack of clarity when it comes to charisms such as "third eye" vision is the result of drugs, diet, dark night, or other major conflict.

This doesn't necessarily mean you'll always experience such things. And there are many other causes at work. But, because of knowledge of others who in their early days were frightened off their path and even into psychiatric care due to repeat experiences of lower level phenomena, I wanted to make sure the mechanics were known.

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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2014, 09:37:46 PM »
The first meditation sit of today produced 4th Jhana. While just "being" I was aware of visual phenomena under the eyelids, as in other meditation sits, yet I was more observant. It appears the "darkness" is of lower realms, and the "light" is of the higher realms. I've also noticed something of a "tunnel" when moving very quickly towards the distinctions. There also appears to be hues of darkness and light. for example on the other side of the first upward tunnel was of a goldish hue, while the one above was closer to that of a dulled snow white. I have no idea why my mind wishes to view the lower, yet it did.

It's been my repeat experience that in jhana we dive into deeper layers of normally unconscious conditioning. Each deeper jhana corresponds with deeper stillness and therefor more apparent experience of that conditioning. As you also know, our unconscious conditioning comes from our past beliefs and thoughts. What our unconscious conditioning for each layer/jhana resonates with will then lead to manifestation of it. In other words, if the majority of your major beliefs and thoughts from the past resonate with lower level beings, then you will most often experience lower level beings and phenomena in samadhi/jhana until it is resolved.


Well this makes sense. I had always been afraid of these things. In times past I've had experience when I thought I've seen them. Mostly as a child. So yea, thanks for that. =) It makes sense.


Also, since lower level beings have greater ignorance and lack of clarity, this is likely to explain the "3rd eye" obscurity. Despite this, If you left the body, it would most likely be clearer. Additionally, in my experience, a lack of clarity when it comes to charisms such as "third eye" vision is the result of drugs, diet, dark night, or other major conflict.

This doesn't necessarily mean you'll always experience such things. And there are many other causes at work. But, because of knowledge of others who in their early days were frightened off their path and even into psychiatric care due to repeat experiences of lower level phenomena, I wanted to make sure the mechanics were known.


I am not entirely sure I can relate the pressure or obscureness to just the lower realms, though. It was also very much present and "blurry" in the upper ones as well. So, there are no longer drugs, the diet is "meh" (I can work on that), dark night is ever present, no? And all conflict has been resolved with equanimity. Not to say that there is not a conflict "with me". It seems at any given chance those around me seem to be in conflict with my actions or lack thereof. I dont follow their rules, they dont like it. Yet its possible I have become "relaxed" with my own internal conflict. I am very content.

So, theres some good food here-correct the mindset, correct the diet. Thanks =)

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Re: Cal's Meditation and Mystical Experience Records
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2014, 04:34:17 AM »
There are still unconscious behaviors, thoughts and beliefs that are impacting you--unless you are Arahant. That's the cause for obscurity.  The obscurity manifests just like experiences of lower level beings--unconscious thoughts, behaviors and beliefs that resonate with lower levels. it doesn't necessarily have to be lower level beings you are experiencing when obscurity is present. Everything becomes clearer and clearer as we uncover and bring the unconscious behaviors in the light of awareness. But most of it is under a huge pile. Like looking for your second sock to a pair--LOL.
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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2014, 05:01:02 AM »
I'm sure you'd like a response from the others, and I am sorry they haven't. But I do want to help, especially when I know answers you seem to be looking for.

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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2014, 11:01:54 AM »
There are still unconscious behaviors, thoughts and beliefs that are impacting you--unless you are Arahant. That's the cause for obscurity.  The obscurity manifests just like experiences of lower level beings--unconscious thoughts, behaviors and beliefs that resonate with lower levels. it doesn't necessarily have to be lower level beings you are experiencing when obscurity is present. Everything becomes clearer and clearer as we uncover and bring the unconscious behaviors in the light of awareness. But most of it is under a huge pile. Like looking for your second sock to a pair--LOL.

Again, thank you Jhanon. I know that I am not Arahant. I hope that I wasnt giving that impression. I guess what I was looking for in my question was more specific guidance. I thought there might be an exercise or something to clear it up. Yet I will accept that it will become clearer as more fetters drop away. Thank you again, Jhanon.

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« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2014, 12:01:40 PM »
I think you are progressing nicely. The ringing of the ear should be outside and not inside of the ear. Check to see if you have high blood pressure. That would cause tinnitus also. The "tunnel" that you've mentioned shows that you are progressing to another level. Cheers

Note : I don't think the classification of attainment is not important at all. The word arahant have been used quite often and through this thread. I think that one should focus on the meditation and not that desire of being an arahant or not. That is counterproductive.
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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2014, 12:05:14 PM »
After further contemplation of the events, and your help Jhanon, I think I understand what it is. I am remote viewing them, the immaterial domains. The pressure in my third eye, is most likely caused by not being out of body. Perhaps with more exploration of this it will become clearer. See, in the 4th jhana the "spaceship" pearl would always appear, as it did during this meditation sit. Yet instead of the "time stop" that occurred before, I simply followed it. I said "oh, I see you, where do you go?" Oh that video I posted earlier, there was a path that lead to a cave, I dont remember exactly which one, perhaps the temple in Cambodia. I seen this "shape" during meditation, it was like an offshaped pearl of a yellow/golden hue. It was the one I grasped and followed through the first upward tunnel. I got a "chill" when I seen the entrance to this cave as the shape of it was almost exactly the shape which I had seen in meditation. I don't know how much I should read into that...yea it could be taken as synchronicitiy. I watched the video right after meditating too. It was the Youtube video in the post "The mind unleashed" in the general tab of the forum. The video was about the pyramids and thier astrological alignments to Orions belt. The temple in Cambodia was aligned with the group of draco, the sphinx with leo etc. It was a very imformative video. They spoke alot about the signifigance of 10500BC. The strangest thing though, and what probably had me hooked on the presentation, was the religous aspect. All of these places were constructed with the intent of spiritual immortality. I have an inclination to visit this temple in Cambodia...

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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2014, 12:53:48 PM »
I think you are progressing nicely. The ringing of the ear should be outside and not inside of the ear. Check to see if you have high blood pressure. That would cause tinnitus also. The "tunnel" that you've mentioned shows that you are progressing to another level. Cheers

Note : I don't think the classification of attainment is not important at all. The word arahant have been used quite often and through this thread. I think that one should focus on the meditation and not that desire of being an arahant or not. That is counterproductive.

Thank you Gandarloda. I think the ringing is of charismatic as it is not always present. It will come when I am on the forum, about to read something, and devote my attention to it. It will come as I absorb deeper and see something, and bring my attention to it. As it comes, it gets louder, the more i focus, the louder it gets. Yet to error on the safe side, Ill get my blood pressure checked. I cant distinguish whether or not it is inside the ear or outside. Thank you for affirming the tunnel  ;D

I agree about the classification, yet i've used it as a benchmark to which of my "issues" to focus on next. The words truly hold little meaning to me. Thanks again Gandarloda.

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« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2014, 01:22:25 PM »
I've begun relying on intuition, in the form of a kundalini sensation proceeding a thought of a path, a direction, or an action.
This is a critical part of the contemplative life, where we look to our intuition for guidance.
Now I may be able to disprove this, and instead attribute it to contemplation and guidance, yet none of this explains the kundalini...is this a religous phenomena?
The Sanskrit term 'kundalini' has been applied broadly to encompass all religious phenomena; however, its original use was to replace an earlier term 'virya,' which referred specifically to the energy component in the religious experience.  We have a section here on kundalini.  There is also an essay on the GWV website on Energy, Kundalini, vĂ®rya, viriya.
One specific intuition that I speak of, was to ask Jhanananda's help and guidance in retrieving repressed memories, of this life. Ones of my childhood. The context of progression was recollection of past lives and deeply rooted traits(ego). The kundalini sensation came when I brought to thought "he would be able to do so". It also came when the thought "those memories are the key to progression".
Yes, retrieving repressed memories, of this life, as well as past lives is also a critical skill developed by contemplatives.  You can examine remote viewing on this forum, and Recollection of Past Lives here. and Recollection of Past Lives on the GWV website.
It appears there is a new, higher pitched audible charism. Only in the left ear, as the previous started. I might add I had been having a duller ringing for quite some time in the ears. It started with the left ear, and then went to both. After further focus, there is now two. The higher pitched only resides in the left ear.
As we progress to deeper stages of meditation the charism of sound does go through frequency shifts, and those shifts tend to increase in frequency and amplitude.
The first meditation sit of today produced 4th Jhana. While just "being" I was aware of visual phenomena under the eyelids, as in other meditation sits, yet I was more observant. It appears the "darkness" is of lower realms, and the "light" is of the higher realms.
Correct, the "darkness" is of lower realms, and the "light" is of the higher realms, so if you put your attention upon the light, then you will rise to higher realms.  This is exactly what one would want to do upon death to move to a higher realm of existence after death.
I've also noticed something of a "tunnel" when moving very quickly towards the distinctions.
The "tunnel" is the doorway out of the body.  At some point you will be able to move your awareness through that tunnel, and go anywhere in the physical, or spiritual universe you wish to go instantly.
Ive also noticed a bad pressure in the third eye. I tried directing my energy flow through it, but its clogged, not fully allowing and the energy. Instead it escapes through the crown. Also my visualization of the previous experience was very obscure, and blurred. This is what leads me to believe the 3rd eye is "clogged". Can anyone offer some advice to this problem?

Thanks again GWV
Through leading a rigorous, self-aware, disciplined, contemplative life you will purify all of your chakras.  You do not have to make them clean.  It will just be done so.  Also, the deeper we go in the contemplative life the less we make things happen, and the more we just allow them to happen.
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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2014, 04:36:49 AM »
An odd event today. I dreamed that I had stepped outside my front door, to see that my truck was gone. The place that is used to sit was "made noticible" im not exactly sure by what. I turned to go back inside, and looked back to see my truck had returned, but the bed of it was empty. I woke up to a phone call from my sister, asking me to help her move to a new home, just out of the blue.

I've had other events like this in the recent months, and recall past Dejavu's as well.


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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2014, 01:09:28 PM »
I found the more we meditate deeper the more intuitive, revelatory insight we acquire, which can include increased lucidity in the sleep domain, which can bring prophetic dreams, even if those prophetic dreams are rather mundane about it is time to clear the truck bed so that you help your sister move.
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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2014, 03:27:24 AM »
I found the more we meditate deeper the more intuitive, revelatory insight we acquire, which can include increased lucidity in the sleep domain, which can bring prophetic dreams, even if those prophetic dreams are rather mundane about it is time to clear the truck bed so that you help your sister move.

I'd take the truck bed over a possible future death any day ^_^

An odd event today. I dreamed that I had stepped outside my front door, to see that my truck was gone. The place that is used to sit was "made noticible" im not exactly sure by what. I turned to go back inside, and looked back to see my truck had returned, but the bed of it was empty. I woke up to a phone call from my sister, asking me to help her move to a new home, just out of the blue.

I've had other events like this in the recent months, and recall past Dejavu's as well.

Well done, or, congratulations? Not sure the right way to say that in this situation.

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« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2014, 09:17:17 PM »
I found the more we meditate deeper the more intuitive, revelatory insight we acquire, which can include increased lucidity in the sleep domain, which can bring prophetic dreams, even if those prophetic dreams are rather mundane about it is time to clear the truck bed so that you help your sister move.

I'd take the truck bed over a possible future death any day ^_^


Yea, some of my dreams have definitely been those of an unsettling sort. For a time, they really impacted me. A friend of ours brought up a good point once, that there are signs pointing to the correct direction all around us.

I went camping a few weeks ago to one of my favorite camping spots. This is a place secluded, way off the beaten path, on the bank of the Snake river. When pulling into the camp area, I noticed a young owl, trapped in some fishing line, hanging about 15ft in the air from a tree branch. I cant say how long the owl had been there. The odd thing about it, is it had that same "feeling" to it, something made me take notice of it. I freed the owl from the fishing line, and it flew away. The things that were most apparent with the owl, is it never broke eye contact with me, I felt as though, when I absorbed, I could comfort, and even communicate with the owl.

That same friend pointed out that the owl is a pretty symbolic of wisdom, and that I should take message. "Wisdom is bound right above you, you only need to free it." The discussion furthered some into that there are no such things as coincedence, all things are meant to happen how they happen...its rather humbling.

Well done, or, congratulations? Not sure the right way to say that in this situation.

Thanks!  :P So heres another kicker. When I wake up in the morning, im always fully absorbed. Sometimes it is the 4th Jhana, others the 3rd, but it is, of course, a great way to wake. With that said, Id say it is pretty safe to assume, that I am absorbed while asleep, and most often go OOB. Its just fate that determines what adventure awaits when I close my eyes :D Now the trick is to remember everything, and experience it! =)