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Re: Jay's Online Dream Log
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2015, 01:52:26 PM »
Interesting... This ties back to the Jewish Kabbalah belief that we are fragments of a huge soul, called Adam Kadmon, translated as "original man"... Perhaps that is also why the Hindus believe in Atman and how Atman is exactly the same as Brahman...

There is also a reference to a "cloud of wisdom" (dharma meghaï) in the Yoga Sutras, and in some Mahayanist texts.  In Jewish Kabbalah belief the Adam Kadmon is said to be made up of "shards of light," and those "shards of light" are the souls of beings, which implies that god is not a single thing, but a collective of things, which are souls.  I believe all of these expressions point to the same experience in depth in meditation, and it is recognized as the deepest depth. This happens to support my experience of the deepest levels of meditation that I have experienced on a number of occasions over more than the preceding 40 years.
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« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2015, 06:55:23 PM »
I find it interesting how I still have a sense of deep awareness at many times I am sleeping.  I partly suspended mediation because of how I internalized the practices in unhealthy ways, partly because I felt I was going insane and needed appropriate balance, and then partly because I needed to curb down my dreams during this healing process.

I had went for a nap in the evening a couple nights ago.  A woman came in my dream.  She was a young looking 50 year old with short blond hair just past her ears.  I was telling her I am not choosing this feeling [the insanity and deep hopelessness] anymore.  We walked around a fire in a room.  Her dark eyes looked at me and she said not to look at her, otherwise I would not be able to stop.  Of course I looked anyway and said the same thing to her, I am not choosing this feeling anymore.  I was straining in my eyes to keep my vision clear and it was painful.

I kept coming back to the black trying to awaken, but I just kept dreaming instead.  When I was floating in the black, I was holding in a lot of pain and stress.  The woman spoke to me in my right ear saying to relax.  It is always interesting to see how you can see and feel the sound in this state.  She added her form of a joke, saying if I tensed too much I would physically die.  It is not true and I knew it, but in a very theatrical way, I shouted how I was safe, and how I have guardians around me to protect me.  I ended up seeing a black dog, a hummingbird with a beautiful glow, and other glowing animal spirits surround me as I laid on the couch for my nap. 

Near the end of my nap, the woman was helping me leave my body, much to my irksome, although I appreciated how she was there.  I was tensing during the process, and once again she kept saying to relax.  Eventually I must have, because I left my body.  My eyes were in much pain, and I brought my hands and felt them.  I thought I was physically straining my eyes and then realized I needed to wake up soon to avoid any damage.   My vision was clear in the centre but the peripheral vision was cloudy.  Sometimes when lucid dreaming my vision is like this, but sometimes to is completely clear too. I noticed the part of myself creating the environment I was in, changing it from dusk to a clear sunny day, with cars on the road and people walking.  It was very cool, but I am not looking to achieve that skill in my life.

I woke up and felt like the world was not real.  My physical eyes were in zero pain and I sighed in relief.  I called my mother and said what happened.  She has had many vivid dreams.  She ended up saying, yes it doesn't feel good to fell that, but it was just a dream.  You are normal!   Everyone dreams, she said. 

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Re: Jay's Online Dream Log
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2015, 01:44:46 AM »
Very interesting lucid dream.  It shows that you have quite some accomplishment here.  Yes, as your dream emphasized, learning to relax is a critical skill to develop for attaining the various superior fruit of attainment.
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Re: Jay's Online Dream Log
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2015, 03:52:05 AM »
Thank you for sharing this Jay, it's quite beautiful.

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Re: Jay's Online Dream Log
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2015, 04:32:45 PM »
You're not in this alone. Although I may be wrong, I've noticed a good correlation with sounds from the "right" ear. A higher pitched audio charism in the right ear, or a whisper in the right ear, has generally been positive experience with me. The left has always been negative. It could be coincidence. Everything has always led to a new understanding, though. For example, last night, and often in the recent months, I hear a higher pitched audio charism in the right ear. This is accompanied with a "feeling" that I should "do" something. It's subtle, but I've learned to listen. I've often imagined that I was invited to join something. I do not know what, not completely, but often it feels, that it has a been the meeting of a friend. Again, accompanied by the "hearing" in the right ear. Reading what I just wrote sounds bat-shit crazy to me, but it is the truth in what I see and feel. I also struggle with this from time to time.

Good luck jay, feel free to talk it out man.
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Re: Jay's Online Dream Log
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2015, 01:26:53 AM »
Yes, Cal, in extreme immediate danger, I too have received warnings in one ear.  I have learned to head the warning.  So, if you are crazy, then so am I, but this body is alive because of those warnings.
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Re: Jay's Online Dream Log
« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2015, 11:20:33 PM »
2 nights ago I noticed a similar feeling and sound, one that I had previously only correlated to the right ear, in the left ear instead. The ear itself may not be a good point in which to make determination, but rather the "sound" itself.

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Re: Jay's Online Dream Log
« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2015, 12:53:38 AM »
Yes, I agree, Cal.
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Re: Jay's Online Dream Log
« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2015, 07:04:12 PM »
One of the things I am still confused about to this day is how Jay had such attainment...went so far...to run away when he was already "over the hump". He only needed to accept it.

I find myself somewhat envious of his lucidity. I read his experiences and they mirror my own....but only after deep reflection on my part. It seems to me that he had immense clarity...and that itself is a huge blessing, at least from my own viewpoint.

Where something may come to me in a slew of visions, like a frame by frame projector, it seems as though he was watching in 1080p.

I also notice in this thread some discussion of moon cycles that I had not previously read. Zack, perhaps if you have the time or feel motivated, you might share how you have experienced these cycles up to this point? I had seen you mention that you may begin to journal the moon cycle along with your dreams.
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Re: Jay's Online Dream Log
« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2015, 10:04:48 PM »
I don't think Jay ran away, he said he just needed a little time to collect himself. It sounded to me like healthy self-knowledge. I'm sure he'll be back.

About the journaling, I don't really do much of it, but I do stay aware of the moon's cycles (as well as what the other planets and celestial bodies are doing) and how I feel and act, and how the people around me do. It helps me stay in the flow of the natural rhythms of life, like checking the weather report. A lot of my observations are maybe too subtle or personal to detail in a simple post, although the planets do also paint in broad, obvious strokes too, and those are learned pretty easily with a little research. Astrology is a vast subject, but also a welcoming one, and a rewarding study, if anyone is interested.

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Re: Jay's Online Dream Log
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2015, 12:57:11 AM »
I don't think Jay ran away, he said he just needed a little time to collect himself. It sounded to me like healthy self-knowledge. I'm sure he'll be back.

About the journaling, I don't really do much of it, but I do stay aware of the moon's cycles (as well as what the other planets and celestial bodies are doing) and how I feel and act, and how the people around me do. It helps me stay in the flow of the natural rhythms of life, like checking the weather report. A lot of my observations are maybe too subtle or personal to detail in a simple post, although the planets do also paint in broad, obvious strokes too, and those are learned pretty easily with a little research. Astrology is a vast subject, but also a welcoming one, and a rewarding study, if anyone is interested.

I am unsure Jay will come back. Before he left he sent me a message saying he was quitting the GWV all-together. Things may change for him, though.

As far as Astrology, there has always been an excuse for not attempting to delve into it (like I see now haha). I suppose I had only hoped you might share a synchronicity or two that you had noticed over a period of time. I had thought it may give some inspiration in this regard, coming from another contemplative. Maybe I'll actually look into it one of these days haha.