The services of the GWV

[Jhanananda]

The valuable contributions that the GWV has made and wishes to continue to provide:
1) The GWV is the only religious movement that we know of today that provides a cogent and logically true philosophical system that does not depend upon deeply flawed translations of ancient religious literature.
2) We have demonstrated that all of the Pali-to-English dictionaries are deeply flawed. Thus, if the GWV had more funding then we could work full-time upon an improved Pali-to-English dictionary, otherwise the work progresses slowly.
3) We have demonstrated that all of the translations of the Pali Canon are deeply flawed. Thus, if the GWV had more funding then we could work full-time upon an improved translations of the Pali Canon.
4) We have demonstrated that all of the translations of the Yoga Sutras are deeply flawed. Thus, if the GWV had more funding then we could work full-time upon an improved translation of the Yoga Sutras.
5) We have demonstrated that all of the translations of the Bible are deeply flawed. Thus, if the GWV had more funding then we could work full-time upon an improved translation of the Bible.
6) We have demonstrated that all of the translations of the Christian Gospels are deeply flawed. Thus, if the GWV had more funding then we could work full-time upon an improved translation of the Christian Gospels.
7) The GWV is the only religious movement that we know of that provides a free service for interpreting and contextualizing religious/meditation experiences within the context of the mystics of the major religions.

Future services of the GWV
1] With financial support the GWV would like to publish its existing works so that there is a record in print of our work describing the religious/meditation experience within a cross-cultural and interreligious context.
2] With financial support the GWV would like to publish its existing works on Buddhist and other religious commentaries.
3] With financial support the GWV would like to publish its existing works on Buddhist and other religious criticism.
4] With financial support the GWV would like to provide an improved Pali-to-English dictionary
5] With financial support the GWV would like to provide a complete re-translation of the Sutta Pitaka of the Pali Canon
6] With financial support the GWV would like to provide a complete re-translation of the Bible
7] With financial support the GWV would like to provide a complete re-translation of the Christian Gospels.
8] With financial support the GWV would like to provide one or more urban practice centers where people are instructed in how to lead a rigorous, ethical, discipline, self-aware contemplative life; and where a daily meditation sit schedule is maintained by a resident meditation teacher who has genuine attainment; and who leads by example a rigorous, ethical, discipline, self-aware contemplative life.
9] With financial support the GWV would like to provide one or more retreat centers where people are instructed in how to lead a rigorous, ethical, discipline, self-aware contemplative life; and where they are welcome to have a religious/meditation experience; and where they are safe to have such experiences; and they will find a meditation teacher who has those experiences and can provide a context for those experiences from his or her personal experience, as well as from an interreligious context.
10] With financial support the GWV would like to provide one or more libraries where the literature of the enlightened will be preserved and available for study by future scholars and mystics.  These libraries are likely to be within one ore more of the urban practice centers and retreat centers.
11] With financial support the GWV would like to build one or more guide stone-like monuments where the core principles presented by every mystic are etched into stone, so that these instructions can remain legible for millennia, as long as they are not intentionally defaced, or dismantled; where a time capsule can by installed to preserve the writing of the major mystics, on archival paper with archival inks, in the original language, and in proper translation; which means these guide stone-like monuments with time capsules would be best built in association with the WVO urban practice centers, retreat centers and libraries; and installed on every continent, so that, even if there was a future organized effort to destroy the practice-leads-to-attainment model of the GWV, then it is unlikely that such a concerted effort could dismantle all of the guide stone-like monuments with time capsules.

[Jhanananda]

I just inspected the Usage Statistics for the GWV's web-site.  I have provided the link, but I am not sure if anyone, but myself, can see these stats.

It turns out that the GWV's web-site averages 23,000 to 33,000 hits per day, accessing 21,000 to 31,000 web pages, which accounts for 3,000,000 to 22,000,000 Kbytes of data transfer per month. That sounds like a pretty successful outreach to the rest of the world.  So, my question is, why with so much web traffic the GWV has not completely changed the world through advocating and describing the deep meditation experience?

[Alexander]

Do you know if those are all humans, or does it count adbots as well?

[Jhanananda]

I doubt if it differentiates between add bots, verses humans.  It would be a sad thing if most of the traffic on the WWW was just add bots.

[Alexander]

I think there are certainly thousands of people who have discovered this forum, or your youtube videos, and have benefited from it. I remember discussing this at one point before:

They [Gurdjieff and Ouspensky] definitely overstate the pre-contemplative states, and do not mention any of the genuinely supernormal stuff like Jhananda does. But I understand what Gurdjieff's intentions were when he designed his school. The Gurdjieff work (its obtuseness included) is designed to take streamwinners, perfect them with knowledge of the "way out of the world," and then by the end hope to turn those streamwinners into once-returners. It is designed off of the old mystery schools, which functioned in the same way.

You, myself, Jhananda (and most of the people who find their way to Jeff Brooks) are, or are set to become, nonreturners or arahants. For us we have already struggled through being the lower noble persons, and that is why our lives have been so fortunate in that everything we needed to make progress in the holy life was given to us directly or fatefully.

So, those esoteric schools affect more people than Jhananda does, but it is focused on the long-term, two to four lifetimes' of progress, and on people who are just taking the first steps onto the "way." But Jhananda, if we wanted to say that he had a destiny, is there to give guidance to people who are already very advanced spiritually. So he teaches a small number of people, but very generously.

[Jhanananda]

I think there are certainly thousands of people who have discovered this forum, or your youtube videos, and have benefited from it. I remember discussing this at one point before:

Yes, my YouTube channel certainly has almost 1,000 subscribers, and almost 600,000 views, which cannot be explained by SPAM engines, which are not likely to be scanning YouTube videos.

They [Gurdjieff and Ouspensky] definitely overstate the pre-contemplative states, and do not mention any of the genuinely supernormal stuff like Jhananda does. But I understand what Gurdjieff's intentions were when he designed his school. The Gurdjieff work (its obtuseness included) is designed to take streamwinners, perfect them with knowledge of the "way out of the world," and then by the end hope to turn those streamwinners into once-returners. It is designed off of the old mystery schools, which functioned in the same way.

This could be said for just about every religious movement.  Each movement taking a different partial view of the spiritual life.  And, each partial view prepares individuals for leading a fruitful contemplative life, either in the present life time, or a future one.

You, myself, Jhananda (and most of the people who find their way to Jeff Brooks) are, or are set to become, nonreturners or arahants. For us we have already struggled through being the lower noble persons, and that is why our lives have been so fortunate in that everything we needed to make progress in the holy life was given to us directly or fatefully.

Yes, those who develop sufficient insight to see through the partial view paths and move onto more comprehensive paths will surely move themselves forward spiritually.

So, those esoteric schools affect more people than Jhananda does, but it is focused on the long-term, two to four lifetimes' of progress, and on people who are just taking the first steps onto the "way." But Jhananda, if we wanted to say that he had a destiny, is there to give guidance to people who are already very advanced spiritually. So he teaches a small number of people, but very generously.

This is also true.  If we look at the life and teaching of every mystic we find they had a very small group of followers to take that message to a larger audience.  Jesus becomes a good example here where he taught 13, or so, people; they made progress relative to their attainments, and they in turn took a fragment of that enlightened message to a larger community.  However, eventually the enlightened message becomes diluted, so that master must return to renew that enlightened message in every age.

[Jhanananda]

Sorry for the forum being down.  I was installing an upgrade to the forum software, which caused a lot of problems.  Hopefully the forum is not running properly.

[Jhanananda]

This forum needs some forum maintainance which is way over due.  I have had very limited access to broadband, so it has made it very difficult for me to conduct the necessary maintainence.  I plan to do it soon, which might result in a brief forum outage, but if the forum goes down, please check back, because it is probably just me doing forum maintainence.