Manhood - Gurdjieff

[Jhanananda]

My case histories do not suggest that women experience the charisms differently; however, what I see of those who have arrived at some low level of jhana, like one, these people tend to think they have figured it all out, and if I tell them that they are only at the first or second level, then they do not want to hear any more from me.  I find the deeper level one gets to then the less dogmatic one becomes.

Get well, Cal.  I find hot ginger tea makes me feel a lot better when I have a cold or flu.

[Cal]

Right. I had not considered it further, to that depth. It would be "special" to them, something of an intimate nature. Which furthers my own personal experience with women, lol. Of course they could not be receptive of anything greater...hmm control. LOL.

Yea I did drink some green tea earlier, it is a favorite conoction of mah wifes. Shes russian, you know? Voodoo doctors. 

[Alexander]

Part of this exchange has been split into Shamanism and Gender.

[Zack]

Good idea - I was taking the thread in a totally different direction than you originally intended.