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« on: January 18, 2014, 03:52:44 PM »
Hello dear friends and contemplatives.

After nearly a year, I just managed to post a new essay, which I thought I would reproduce here to see if anyone else resonates.

Yes, there are hints in here as to why I've been so silent and unresponsive -- I'm hoping to cycle back into a place of availability and communication, but we'll have to see what the charisms have in mind....

http://rightabsorption.wordpress.com/2014/01/18/jhana-and-the-death-of-self-identity/

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Charisms, which are inevitable manifestations of spiritual awakening, are more than just pleasant sensations. We know them as expressions of jhana, samadhi, kundalini, chi, or any number of names pointing to mostly-pleasant “signs of absorption.” While they may arise as euphoric, blissful or overwhelmingly powerful waves of energy, we need to remember that these phenomena are not meant as a reward or prize for having meditated a certain number of hours, for praying fervently enough, or for being lucky.

From the moment these phenomena begin to arise, we are subject to a series of changes that flood into every area of our lives, and these changes continue for the rest of our time on Earth.

When “it” started happening for me – some time in 1994, during a cycle wherein I practised “trance work” (later known to me as “laying-down meditation”) upwards of ten hours a day – my first thought was, “Well, this certainly is interesting – I wonder how long it will last?”

Twenty years later, those initial inklings – a gentle vibration on the forehead between the eyes, a “halo” around my head, persistent vibrational sounds independent of my outer ears – have matured, expanded and integrated into my experience of life. They have become ever-present and stabilized – although there are times when a “spike” will throw everything into chaos and uncertainty, when I’m taken to levels of absorption I’ve never been to before, and I don’t know if I’ll ever come back to “normality” again.

What I did not know back then is that these charisms were not just giving me validation as a dedicated, practicing contemplative.

They were ripping me apart from the inside out.

* * *

There came a time, about eight years after the onset of these “signs of absorption,” when I gleefully committed myself to the life of a contemplative – a meditator, a prayer-warrior, a studier of Scripture. Such liberation! “I am a monk! This is IT! This is ME for the REST OF MY LIFE!” February 1, 2005 is when I made a formal announcement to this effect. A flash of spiritual lightning had hurled down from the heavens, struck me between the eyes, and given me absolute conviction that my “marching papers” had finally been delivered – my life would be one long meditation retreat, and the world would just have to get used to it.

Looking back, I see that this lightning-struck declaration of who I AM was a “gift” from the charisms, and that this gift signified that authentic, undeniable transformation had commenced.

What I did not understand at the time, however, was that this “gift” would not always lead to bliss, joy and ecstasy. Granted, bliss, joy and ecstasy are always present, but they do not define my total state – they only define my presence without reference to the context of my life.

In other words, while these twenty years of daily meditation and living with the charisms have saturated me in bliss, joy and ecstasy, there is still the matter of living life. Living life creates friction, in my experience – friction resulting from the expectations, demands and requirements of a world that does not value its contemplatives, wanting them to “get a job” and spend hours at work, buying things, paying bills and contributing to the economy, rather than sitting silent for hours at a time on a meditation cushion.

This friction has been wearing at my self-identity for two decades.

It has been challenging all the beliefs I’d previously taken for granted – about myself, about the world I inhabit, about the nature of existence itself.

The charisms, once they take hold, gradually whittle away at the contemplative – and, depending on how enlarged the contemplative’s ego was upon onset, and how much the contemplative kicks and screams as the process unfolds, the “fall from grace” can form one long, tortuous, humbling period of relinquishment.

If I could counsel a “newbie” contemplative who is just coming into the charisms, I would say that there is nothing more important than to discard one’s need for self-justification as quickly as possible. If we are habitually defensive when validation and respect are withdrawn from us, we need to go straight into that burning need for validation and we need to let it go, once and for all.

I know, because I have kicked and screamed, I have issued rationalization after rationalization, and I have retained a stance of self-justification out of sheer habit – all while maintaining a vigorous daily meditation practice. The whittling away deepens as time goes on, adding torque and pressure to the imperative to relinquish. Relinquishment WILL HAPPEN, one way or another – some of us take the easy way, some of us bang our heads on every rock in the road.

While it’s true that ALL of life constitutes a challenge to let go of our erroneous beliefs, I can say that the charisms represent a guarantee that we won’t be able to avoid the utter death and destruction of our self-identity. The charisms are here to smash all of that, no matter what it takes to get the job done. Until our habituated sense of self is broken beyond repair, we are just pushing against the tidal wave – and no human is strong enough to hold it back.

Better to dive into the wave and swim wherever it wants to take us.
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Re: Michael's Blog
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2014, 01:49:48 PM »
Hello dear friends and contemplatives.

After nearly a year, I just managed to post a new essay, which I thought I would reproduce here to see if anyone else resonates.

Yes, there are hints in here as to why I've been so silent and unresponsive -- I'm hoping to cycle back into a place of availability and communication, but we'll have to see what the charisms have in mind....

http://rightabsorption.wordpress.com/2014/01/18/jhana-and-the-death-of-self-identity/

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Hello again dear friend.  It is so good to hear from you again, after so long, and to read one of your excellent essays.  I imagine some day all of these essays will become a book that will inspire many future mystics.

Charisms, which are inevitable manifestations of spiritual awakening, are more than just pleasant sensations. We know them as expressions of jhana, samadhi, kundalini, chi, or any number of names pointing to mostly-pleasant “signs of absorption.” While they may arise as euphoric, blissful or overwhelmingly powerful waves of energy, we need to remember that these phenomena are not meant as a reward or prize for having meditated a certain number of hours, for praying fervently enough, or for being lucky.

From the moment these phenomena begin to arise, we are subject to a series of changes that flood into every area of our lives, and these changes continue for the rest of our time on Earth.

When “it” started happening for me – some time in 1994, during a cycle wherein I practised “trance work” (later known to me as “laying-down meditation”) upwards of ten hours a day – my first thought was, “Well, this certainly is interesting – I wonder how long it will last?”

Twenty years later, those initial inklings – a gentle vibration on the forehead between the eyes, a “halo” around my head, persistent vibrational sounds independent of my outer ears – have matured, expanded and integrated into my experience of life. They have become ever-present and stabilized – although there are times when a “spike” will throw everything into chaos and uncertainty, when I’m taken to levels of absorption I’ve never been to before, and I don’t know if I’ll ever come back to “normality” again.

What I did not know back then is that these charisms were not just giving me validation as a dedicated, practicing contemplative.

They were ripping me apart from the inside out.

* * *

This transformation, or ripping apart is all about reorganizing our life around the contemplative life; but when i read the description of our charisms in another religious context it is often believed to be, "the work of the devil.'  I often have reflected upon why mystics are almost consistently marginalized in every culture and period; and who does that marginalizing?  It is the devout who martyr the mystics, because they erroneously believe that what we are about is evil.

There came a time, about eight years after the onset of these “signs of absorption,” when I gleefully committed myself to the life of a contemplative – a meditator, a prayer-warrior, a studier of Scripture. Such liberation! “I am a monk! This is IT! This is ME for the REST OF MY LIFE!” February 1, 2005 is when I made a formal announcement to this effect. A flash of spiritual lightning had hurled down from the heavens, struck me between the eyes, and given me absolute conviction that my “marching papers” had finally been delivered – my life would be one long meditation retreat, and the world would just have to get used to it.

Looking back, I see that this lightning-struck declaration of who I AM was a “gift” from the charisms, and that this gift signified that authentic, undeniable transformation had commenced.

What I did not understand at the time, however, was that this “gift” would not always lead to bliss, joy and ecstasy. Granted, bliss, joy and ecstasy are always present, but they do not define my total state – they only define my presence without reference to the context of my life.

In other words, while these twenty years of daily meditation and living with the charisms have saturated me in bliss, joy and ecstasy, there is still the matter of living life. Living life creates friction, in my experience – friction resulting from the expectations, demands and requirements of a world that does not value its contemplatives, wanting them to “get a job” and spend hours at work, buying things, paying bills and contributing to the economy, rather than sitting silent for hours at a time on a meditation cushion.

This friction has been wearing at my self-identity for two decades.

It has been challenging all the beliefs I’d previously taken for granted – about myself, about the world I inhabit, about the nature of existence itself.

The charisms, once they take hold, gradually whittle away at the contemplative – and, depending on how enlarged the contemplative’s ego was upon onset, and how much the contemplative kicks and screams as the process unfolds, the “fall from grace” can form one long, tortuous, humbling period of relinquishment.

If I could counsel a “newbie” contemplative who is just coming into the charisms, I would say that there is nothing more important than to discard one’s need for self-justification as quickly as possible. If we are habitually defensive when validation and respect are withdrawn from us, we need to go straight into that burning need for validation and we need to let it go, once and for all.

I know, because I have kicked and screamed, I have issued rationalization after rationalization, and I have retained a stance of self-justification out of sheer habit – all while maintaining a vigorous daily meditation practice. The whittling away deepens as time goes on, adding torque and pressure to the imperative to relinquish. Relinquishment WILL HAPPEN, one way or another – some of us take the easy way, some of us bang our heads on every rock in the road.

While it’s true that ALL of life constitutes a challenge to let go of our erroneous beliefs, I can say that the charisms represent a guarantee that we won’t be able to avoid the utter death and destruction of our self-identity. The charisms are here to smash all of that, no matter what it takes to get the job done. Until our habituated sense of self is broken beyond repair, we are just pushing against the tidal wave – and no human is strong enough to hold it back.

Better to dive into the wave and swim wherever it wants to take us.
Yes, the world of humans does not value its mystics, and wants everyone to work themselves to death; and does not want to support its mystics who can no longer stand the struggle for life. Life is full of struggle, and the the struggle for life has worn me out, and it seems it has worn you down as well.

I have been working on an extension of the 4 Noble Truths.  Here it is:

Surely suffering exists.  Some of that suffering is the suffering that is the product of the shear struggle for life.  And, arguably the degree of struggle is in some way proportional to our craving; however, even when we give up craving, and enter the contemplative live, which transforms us into a full-blown mystic, then we still have to come back here to meet the daily struggle for life its self; and it wears us down.

Thank-you for posting your blog here.  I look forward to reading more of your blogs, as well of those of others.  I never seem to tire of reading the blogs and case histories, and discussion here; when all else has turned to weariness.
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2014, 02:56:18 PM »
Thank you for your kind words, Jeffrey.  Your efforts to provide a safe harbor for mystics and contemplatives have been a boon for folks like me.

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This transformation, or ripping apart is all about reorganizing our life around the contemplative life; but when i read the description of our charisms in another religious context it is often believed to be, "the work of the devil.'  I often have reflected upon why mystics are almost consistently marginalized in every culture and period; and who does that marginalizing?  It is the devout who martyr the mystics, because they erroneously believe that what we are about is evil.

I have to agree with you here.  In discussing with adherents the actual experience that mainline traditions and religions purport to preserve, foster and teach -- i.e., the universal manifestations of the "divine" that most religions consider to be "dead and buried" during some long-ago Golden Age wherein the progenitor displayed what were considered super-human spiritual phenomena -- there is a very narrow range of discussion allowed, as these people are so controlled by fear (of everlasting Hell or rebirth as a slimy toad) that they won't entertain the availability of actual experience.  Better to burn the witches and warlocks than try to find common ground in the quest for divine union....

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Yes, the world of humans does not value its mystics, and wants everyone to work themselves to death; and does not want to support its mystics who can no longer stand the struggle for life. Life is full of struggle, and the the struggle for life has worn me out, and it seems it has worn you down as well.

The masses are brainwashed into enslavement on all levels.  To challenge basic beliefs and assumptions about how to live one's life is considered treason against the obvious -- so they continue their parade march into forgetfulness and Borg-mind mentality.  And it's hard for me to blame them -- their plight is just the logical outcome of a lifetime's indoctrination.  Once you find yourself out on the margins, there's no re-entry into the hive.

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Surely suffering exists.  Some of that suffering is the suffering that is the product of the shear struggle for life.  And, arguably the degree of struggle is in some way proportional to our craving; however, even when we give up craving, and enter the contemplative live, which transforms us into a full-blown mystic, then we still have to come back here to meet the daily struggle for life its self; and it wears us down.

In my experience, giving up craving is an automatic process that comes with the territory -- which is to say, once we are "activated" into 1st jhana and we gradually manage to surrender to saturation through daily immersion, we begin to lose our craving for all the enticements of life.  At a certain point, the process digs down to the "root cravings" that manifest in things like the innate desire for validation, recognition, respect -- and we get to watch our reactivity based on these root cravings.  This is when our suffering intensifies, as the charisms burrow deeper and deeper into our psyches, gouging out our most deep-seated attachments to this wretched collective dream-reality.  So, I am to a place where I recommend that we mystics and contemplatives actively pursue individual policies of relinquishment.  We are human, so our habits die slowly -- but die they must, and the sooner the better.

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Thank-you for posting your blog here.  I look forward to reading more of your blogs, as well of those of others.  I never seem to tire of reading the blogs and case histories, and discussion here; when all else has turned to weariness.

I hope I'm back... I really do....

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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2014, 12:22:37 AM »
Thank you for your kind words, Jeffrey.  Your efforts to provide a safe harbor for mystics and contemplatives have been a boon for folks like me.

Thank-you Michael, I am so glad that you have found refuge here, because none of us have ever found refuge among mainstream Buddhist teachers, like: Geshe Tashi Tsering, Chogyam Trungpa, Pema Chödrön, Phillip Moffitt, Goenka and so many other frauds in Buddhism.

I have to agree with you here.  In discussing with adherents the actual experience that mainline traditions and religions purport to preserve, foster and teach -- i.e., the universal manifestations of the "divine" that most religions consider to be "dead and buried" during some long-ago Golden Age wherein the progenitor displayed what were considered super-human spiritual phenomena -- there is a very narrow range of discussion allowed, as these people are so controlled by fear (of everlasting Hell or rebirth as a slimy toad) that they won't entertain the availability of actual experience.  Better to burn the witches and warlocks than try to find common ground in the quest for divine union....

Yes, I agree, and those people would include: Geshe Tashi Tsering, Chogyam Trungpa, Pema Chödrön, Phillip Moffitt, Goenka and so many other frauds in Buddhism.

The masses are brainwashed into enslavement on all levels.  To challenge basic beliefs and assumptions about how to live one's life is considered treason against the obvious -- so they continue their parade march into forgetfulness and Borg-mind mentality.  And it's hard for me to blame them -- their plight is just the logical outcome of a lifetime's indoctrination.  Once you find yourself out on the margins, there's no re-entry into the hive.

Yes, I agree, and the people who are part of that brainwashing into enslavement on all levels into forgetfulness and Borg-mind mentality include: Geshe Tashi Tsering, Chogyam Trungpa, Pema Chödrön, Phillip Moffitt, Goenka and so many other frauds in Buddhism.  Of course every religion has its frauds, not just Buddhism

In my experience, giving up craving is an automatic process that comes with the territory -- which is to say, once we are "activated" into 1st jhana and we gradually manage to surrender to saturation through daily immersion, we begin to lose our craving for all the enticements of life.  At a certain point, the process digs down to the "root cravings" that manifest in things like the innate desire for validation, recognition, respect -- and we get to watch our reactivity based on these root cravings.  This is when our suffering intensifies, as the charisms burrow deeper and deeper into our psyches, gouging out our most deep-seated attachments to this wretched collective dream-reality.  So, I am to a place where I recommend that we mystics and contemplatives actively pursue individual policies of relinquishment.  We are human, so our habits die slowly -- but die they must, and the sooner the better.

Yes, I agree, and at the depth of the level of relinquishment you are speaking of is far, far beyond the comprehension of people like: Geshe Tashi Tsering, Chogyam Trungpa, Pema Chödrön, Phillip Moffitt, Goenka and so many other frauds in Buddhism. 

I hope I'm back... I really do....

Good to have you back.  I look forward to reading more of what you have to say.  I am sure the other contemplatives here will find much to learn from what you have to say.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2014, 01:00:38 PM »
It is good to see posts from you again Michael, they are very useful to me and I'm sure most of us here.

Surely suffering exists.  Some of that suffering is the suffering that is the product of the shear struggle for life.  And, arguably the degree of struggle is in some way proportional to our craving; however, even when we give up craving, and enter the contemplative live, which transforms us into a full-blown mystic, then we still have to come back here to meet the daily struggle for life its self; and it wears us down.


What I did not understand at the time, however, was that this “gift” would not always lead to bliss, joy and ecstasy. Granted, bliss, joy and ecstasy are always present, but they do not define my total state – they only define my presence without reference to the context of my life.

In other words, while these twenty years of daily meditation and living with the charisms have saturated me in bliss, joy and ecstasy, there is still the matter of living life. Living life creates friction, in my experience – friction resulting from the expectations, demands and requirements of a world that does not value its contemplatives, wanting them to “get a job” and spend hours at work, buying things, paying bills and contributing to the economy, rather than sitting silent for hours at a time on a meditation cushion.


If I could counsel a “newbie” contemplative who is just coming into the charisms, I would say that there is nothing more important than to discard one’s need for self-justification as quickly as possible. If we are habitually defensive when validation and respect are withdrawn from us, we need to go straight into that burning need for validation and we need to let it go, once and for all.


I was starting to get a sense as of late that this was the case. It has never seemed as simple as just giving up craving and enjoying the bliss train. But to see you two actually say something about it gives me hope still. It gives me more reason to dedicate myself to the contemplative life, because life here is never really going to be a cakewalk, even with deep absorption, but at the same time to just live this harsh and confusing life without putting effort towards a contemplative life seems wasteful. So I am hoping to be able to work through frictions in my own life with the understanding that the problems of living life don't necessarily get wiped away just because one has absorption. And seeing my own reactiveness bred from  a "burning need for validation" has definitely been a recurring theme for me in the past year, even when it is not validation from society I am seeking, but that of a loved one. I have found right in the middle of an arguement that " I have retained a stance of self-justification out of sheer habit", and it makes me sick sometimes that I do it so naturally without realizing at first. What should I be practicing when these situations like this arise?

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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2014, 01:58:29 PM »
Hello Roughleader, Jeffrey and friends,

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I have found right in the middle of an argument that "I have retained a stance of self-justification out of sheer habit", and it makes me sick sometimes that I do it so naturally without realizing at first. What should I be practising when these situations like this arise?

I have not found any sure-fire methods, unfortunately -- seems like I am constantly watching myself crouch like a tiger, ready to pounce in situations like the one you describe.  As time goes by and the charisms continue to whittle away at me, it's clear that whatever sense of safety and security I once derived from my conditioned sense of self is gone, gone, gone... leaving me in a constant state of self-questioning and insecurity with regard to life on Earth.  What is asked of us is to find a more true, authentic focus of attention -- which, if the mystics of old are any guide, equates with the higher principle of LIFE that animates us all (i.e., God, the Divine, or even manifestations of such, as in jhana, samadhi, etc.).  As Jeffrey is always saying, it doesn't matter what's going on in his world -- physical pain, suffering born of the need to survive in a harsh and corrupt world -- when he takes a moment to deepen his absorption, his perspective aligns with that which is not subject to suffering, and he is renewed.  For me, I pray out to the Spirit, which is present as the very saturation in absorption that has been here for 20 years now.

What does not work, in my opinion, is to beat myself up.  Self-judgement is just as bad as self-justification -- they both are strategies that the ego employs to keep itself at the center of everything.  I've had to work hard on the self-judgement thing, since part of my historical self-identity is that I am a "good man" who cares about people and is in a position to help -- but what kind of "good man" blows up at his loved ones, says unfortunate things and is actually cruel at times?  I try to give myself some slack, reminding myself that this was never going to be easy, that it's what I invoked at some point -- I have to believe that this path of identity-dissolution is not only necessary, but ultimately beneficial for all beings.  It's all very humbling.

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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2014, 03:32:16 PM »
It is good to see posts from you again Michael, they are very useful to me and I'm sure most of us here.

The more voices that we can have from fellow mystics, such as Michael, Stu, Sam, rougeleader115 and others on this forum, the more people find assurance that the experiences that they have in deep meditation that are like ours, are valid, even if mainstream Buddhism rejects them for "damaging their brain from incorrect meditation practice."

I was starting to get a sense as of late that this was the case. It has never seemed as simple as just giving up craving and enjoying the bliss train. But to see you two actually say something about it gives me hope still. It gives me more reason to dedicate myself to the contemplative life, because life here is never really going to be a cakewalk, even with deep absorption, but at the same time to just live this harsh and confusing life without putting effort towards a contemplative life seems wasteful. So I am hoping to be able to work through frictions in my own life with the understanding that the problems of living life don't necessarily get wiped away just because one has absorption. And seeing my own reactiveness bred from  a "burning need for validation" has definitely been a recurring theme for me in the past year, even when it is not validation from society I am seeking, but that of a loved one. I have found right in the middle of an arguement that " I have retained a stance of self-justification out of sheer habit", and it makes me sick sometimes that I do it so naturally without realizing at first. What should I be practicing when these situations like this arise?

I enjoyed reading your mature response here, rougeleader115.  As a mendicant I live closely to the homeless and I have observed that there is a definite significant faction of the homeless population who are devout Christians.  Additionally, I have seen these devout homeless have ended up on the street with nothing, because they believed that "God" would save them from ruin, because of their devotion to their belief system. 

In fact I regularly get auto parts from junkyards, where I happen to notice that many of the autos there have religious symbols remaining near the driver's seat, which has caused me to reflect that the junkyards are full of the autos of the faithful, as well as the graveyards are full of the faithful lying right next to the faithless.

Hello Roughleader, Jeffrey and friends,

I have not found any sure-fire methods, unfortunately -- seems like I am constantly watching myself crouch like a tiger, ready to pounce in situations like the one you describe.  As time goes by and the charisms continue to whittle away at me, it's clear that whatever sense of safety and security I once derived from my conditioned sense of self is gone, gone, gone... leaving me in a constant state of self-questioning and insecurity with regard to life on Earth. 

This is the kind of self-awareness that I have been speaking of.

What is asked of us is to find a more true, authentic focus of attention -- which, if the mystics of old are any guide, equates with the higher principle of LIFE that animates us all (i.e., God, the Divine, or even manifestations of such, as in jhana, samadhi, etc.).  As Jeffrey is always saying, it doesn't matter what's going on in his world -- physical pain, suffering born of the need to survive in a harsh and corrupt world -- when he takes a moment to deepen his absorption, his perspective aligns with that which is not subject to suffering, and he is renewed.  For me, I pray out to the Spirit, which is present as the very saturation in absorption that has been here for 20 years now.

This focus upon the internal religious experience, in a Judeo-Christian context, is keeping the Holy Spirit with you in every moment, even though one walks through the valley of the shadow of death, which is this evil and corrupt world, where mystics, like you, are commonly marginalized and even martyred by the devout of every religion.

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1 A Psalm of David. The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.

2 He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters.

3 He restores my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.

4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.

5 You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; you anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows.
 
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD forever.

What does not work, in my opinion, is to beat myself up.  Self-judgement is just as bad as self-justification -- they both are strategies that the ego employs to keep itself at the center of everything.  I've had to work hard on the self-judgement thing, since part of my historical self-identity is that I am a "good man" who cares about people and is in a position to help -- but what kind of "good man" blows up at his loved ones, says unfortunate things and is actually cruel at times?  I try to give myself some slack, reminding myself that this was never going to be easy, that it's what I invoked at some point -- I have to believe that this path of identity-dissolution is not only necessary, but ultimately beneficial for all beings.  It's all very humbling.

I have been closely observing myself, especially when i lose my temper working on one of the wrecks that I have been sweating bullets on to keep running.  I can keep my patience for days, weeks, and even months at a time, but then, for example, after recently spending 2 months to replace just 2 radiator hoses on the military vehicle, which was clearly designed not to be serviced by the greedy manufacturer who wanted to sell more over-priced vehicles to the military, I finally lost my temper, and scream like a maniac.  I got the job though that day. But, why the anger?

Well, my critics will just say, "that is proof Jhananda is a fraud."

My explanation for my emotional response to an impossible situation goes to having to accept that we are all spirit beings residing in a beast.  Through leading a disciplined contemplative life we slowly train that beast, and bring it under control, and as we saturate ourselves in the charisms, we identify more and more with the spirit being, who is our "true-self."  However, if we beat the beast, or abuse it, or over-work it, too much, then it rebels.  So, I am now carefully walking a fine line between working the beast hard, but not too hard.  However, sometimes, to get the job done, I just have to beat it, and beat it, until the job gets done. Perhaps that will help some of you.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2014, 02:24:56 AM »
Michael,
Excellent well articulated writing.  I'd like to ask a question though, do you think you'd percieve the stripping of your self  identity so painfully if you were able to be supported more comfortable in vocation that was congruent to your gifts as a mystic?  Personally i feel much of what you feel, but the frustration and ever slipperly slope of who i am and what i do seems to be precipitated  more by a complete inability on my part to find a vocation that is even remotely close to my notion of right livilihood.   So i am curious if you are experiencing similar?

Jhanananda,
Your observations between homeless being faithful is an interesting one, be interesting to know if indeed sincere faith in the values of christianity correlates with higher probablility of homelessness in this country.  I'd suspect sadly that it does.  Also I fully agree that we are a spirit being in the vehicle of animal ape.  The operating rules IMO between spirit and flesh don't quite work the same, at least not yet.  Jesus and the Buddha probably would have sworn too if they had to change the alternator on cheap japanese car.  I tend to find myself in very similar car salvaging situations as you and also many odd arduous physical jobs.  This is because i opted out of the formal career trajectory for a variety of ethical livelihood reasons and now find obtaining livilihood is stringing together part time hard and odd physical jobs (such as resensoring a 500ft tall tower today), to roofing, shoveling ect and mcgyevering my $700 vehicle to continue to run on improvised parts.  In any case i feel no shame in admitting i move from being in equanimity and bliss to being focused and aggressive and maybe even a touch angry to get a difficult knuckle cutting job done.  I also don't think it bad to get in touch with those more animalistic natures of healthy aggressive outlets, in fact while i live in a body in this world i find brief periods of very intense aggressive excercise to stimulate my health and help me better negotiate the difficult trials of this world.   

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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2014, 05:35:33 AM »
I am glad someone mentioned disassociation, I have been looking at that and since I am trying to let go all the time I have been getting stuck and I think the feeling is disassociation.

When I think about it I can switch to getting my identity from being but find that I have to do that all the time or I drift back.

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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2014, 12:25:09 PM »
Michael,
Excellent well articulated writing.  I'd like to ask a question though, do you think you'd percieve the stripping of your self  identity so painfully if you were able to be supported more comfortable in vocation that was congruent to your gifts as a mystic?  Personally i feel much of what you feel, but the frustration and ever slipperly slope of who i am and what i do seems to be precipitated  more by a complete inability on my part to find a vocation that is even remotely close to my notion of right livilihood.   So i am curious if you are experiencing similar?

Good question, roamer.  I expect most of us would find development as a mystic a lot more positive an experience if we lived in a culture that valued our internal journey.  This is why I keep urging the mystic of today to form their own community (sangha), because no one is going to help us, but ourselves.

Jhanananda,
Your observations between homeless being faithful is an interesting one, be interesting to know if indeed sincere faith in the values of christianity correlates with higher probablility of homelessness in this country.  I'd suspect sadly that it does. 

Well, most of the homeless I ever run into are self-medicating battle scarred veterans, but many of them are also devout Christians.  Aside from the war-wounded, I believe what propels most of the, otherwise just devout Christian, into failure is their belief in a benevolent creator god who bestows material benefits upon his "righteous," which is in their belief system is just believing a bunch of nonsense that was sold to them by a bunch of pedophiles 1700 years ago for job security; and Christianity has done nothing to correct the deep flaws in their belief system since then.  The devout Christians who end up on the street just conclude that they are not "righteous enough" to be rescued by god.

Also I fully agree that we are a spirit being in the vehicle of animal ape.  The operating rules IMO between spirit and flesh don't quite work the same, at least not yet.  Jesus and the Buddha probably would have sworn too if they had to change the alternator on cheap japanese car. 

Thanks, I expect you are right.  I keep thinking that going forth with a patched sheet wrap around me is all I need, but in this culture that would be the fast track to jail, which would not be conducive to a contemplative life.

I tend to find myself in very similar car salvaging situations as you and also many odd arduous physical jobs.  This is because i opted out of the formal career trajectory for a variety of ethical livelihood reasons and now find obtaining livilihood is stringing together part time hard and odd physical jobs (such as resensoring a 500ft tall tower today), to roofing, shoveling ect and mcgyevering my $700 vehicle to continue to run on improvised parts. 

Sorry to hear that, but as we are all finding, this is the lifestyle that any dedicated contemplative is going to find in this culture.

In any case i feel no shame in admitting i move from being in equanimity and bliss to being focused and aggressive and maybe even a touch angry to get a difficult knuckle cutting job done.  I also don't think it bad to get in touch with those more animalistic natures of healthy aggressive outlets, in fact while i live in a body in this world i find brief periods of very intense aggressive excercise to stimulate my health and help me better negotiate the difficult trials of this world.

Well, use the best as best you can for now, because everything wears out, even the beast.  I wore mine out, and now it is at the point that I have to take it easy on it, if I am going to get a few more miles and years out of it.

I am glad someone mentioned disassociation, I have been looking at that and since I am trying to let go all the time I have been getting stuck and I think the feeling is disassociation.

When I think about it I can switch to getting my identity from being but find that I have to do that all the time or I drift back.

Good to hear from you, Valdy. The religious experience is essentially non-dual, so a psychiatrist would interpret our descriptions here as dissociative.

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In psychology, the term dissociation describes a wide array of experiences from mild detachment from immediate surroundings to more severe detachment from physical and emotional experience. The major characteristic of all dissociative phenomena involves a detachment from reality – rather than a loss of reality as in psychosis.[1][2][3][4] Dissociative experiences are further characterized by the varied maladaptive mental constructions of an individual's natural imaginative capacity.[citation needed]

Dissociation is commonly displayed on a continuum.[5] In mild cases, dissociation can be regarded as a coping mechanism or defense mechanisms in seeking to master, minimize or tolerate stress – including boredom or conflict.[6][7][8] At the nonpathological end of the continuum, dissociation describes common events such as daydreaming while driving a vehicle. Further along the continuum are non-pathological altered states of consciousness.[5][9][10]

More pathological dissociation involves dissociative disorders, including dissociative fugue and depersonalization disorder with or without alterations in personal identity or sense of self. These alterations can include: a sense that self or the world is unreal (depersonalization and derealization); a loss of memory (amnesia); forgetting identity or assuming a new self (fugue); and fragmentation of identity or self into separate streams of consciousness (dissociative identity disorder, formerly termed multiple personality disorder) and complex post-traumatic stress disorder.[11][12]

Dissociative disorders are sometimes triggered by trauma, but may be preceded only by stress, psychoactive substances, or no identifiable trigger at all.[13] The ICD-10 classifies conversion disorder as a dissociative disorder.[5] The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders groups all dissociative disorders into a single category.[14]
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2014, 02:55:15 PM »
Hello roamer,

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I'd like to ask a question though, do you think you'd percieve the stripping of your self  identity so painfully if you were able to be supported more comfortable in vocation that was congruent to your gifts as a mystic?

Thanks for your kind words and question.

I think that being supported in a vocation that is congruent with my gifts as a mystic would be wonderful.  As you know, I've spent the past 20+ years taking multiple stabs at putting myself out there as an astrologer and Tarot reader -- which are, of course, windows through which a discussion of the "deeper things" may be accessed.  I do thrive in the "alchemical crucible," as my teacher Charles Bebeau used to call it -- the place of intimacy between two human beings searching for truth and meaning, insights into why things are the way they are.  Getting paid for that is something that I've always felt conflicted about -- which is why, I imagine, I've never been able to go fully professional.

Since members of this board have gone "off the reservation" in terms of connecting with mainline spiritual traditions and religions, there is no comfortable landing place in terms of being spiritual teachers -- again, we would need to have a base desire to succeed in a business-sense -- something that I've struggled with all my life.  I've lived my entire adult life, in fact, in a state of financial precariousness.  I've learned to live with uncertainty and insecurity, but I recognize that there are emotional challenges to this lifestyle that get in the way of pure tranquillity and equanimity.  In a way, this is perfect for the process of self-identity dissolution -- I couldn't ask for a better environment to challenge my self concepts.  I would be lying, however, if I said I didn't ruminate from time to time what it would be like to have financial security.

Like Jeffrey, I feel bittersweetness when I look toward my final years.  It would be so wonderful to watch the sun set from within a retreat or monastic scenario, devoid of the stresses associated with survival in this dog-eat-dog world -- and, who knows?  Perhaps it will happen....

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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2014, 03:55:10 PM »
Karen and I have been struggling mightily to "get organized."  When we work, we are consumed with it -- and my beast quickly becomes irritable and angry, resentful because it knows the value of solitude and contemplative practice, but is forced to engage economic challenges in WAY too intense a manner.  I meditate frequently, I read spiritual books and I commune with the Spirit -- business fades into the background.  So, we beat the beast back into work mode, and we hope to find respite at some point along the way....

Like Jeffrey, I feel bittersweetness when I look toward my final years.  It would be so wonderful to watch the sun set from within a retreat or monastic scenario, devoid of the stresses associated with survival in this dog-eat-dog world -- and, who knows?  Perhaps it will happen....

Hello, Michael, good to read more from you. I had hoped that when you two started selling lots near Ft Garland, that the community of mystics who resonate with the GWV, would buy lots from you, and cooperatively build a retreat center there for fellow mystics; but, sadly, that has not happened.  So, my "retreat center" is one of my vehicles parked in a national forest for the camping limit, where those who wish to join me on retreat are welcome. 

It looks like that is going to be it.  I choose not to think about what happens when I get too old and feeble.  If it all goes well, then this beast will gracefully just stop living one day.
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2014, 07:05:44 PM »
Word.

I'm sorry work is filling your days with irritation, Michael. I understand. Or, at least, I really despise work. I long for time in the south, in the warmer clients, in the forest, among you all who I consider to be the greatest of friends I have. I have plenty other friends, but it is this lot which I resonate most with, and I wonder if we haven't known each other many times before in past lives.

I'm getting to the point where I'm fed up with talking about it. I just want to find a way to make it work so that at least some of us can form a little community of mystics to caravan or build a center.

I know, at the very least, that if I can get Social Security payments coming in, then I will have the freedom to at least go throw Jhananda in his van and we can hit the national forest. Or something! I've not once had the pleasure of outdoor retreat, and I long for it.

I really hope to see more of you and Karen on here, Michael. You two are an interest of mine, because I know OF you, but I don't really know you.

You know, I am really starting to be tempted to just find out where all the active or long-standing members of the GWV live. Then one-by-one, visit their homes like a Mormon looking to recruit you all. Listen to your ideas, and try to inspire a way to make this all work.

Please forgive the idealistic nature of us youngin's. Best wishes.
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2014, 02:32:21 AM »
Word.

I'm sorry work is filling your days with irritation, Michael. I understand. Or, at least, I really despise work. I long for time in the south, in the warmer clients, in the forest, among you all who I consider to be the greatest of friends I have. I have plenty other friends, but it is this lot which I resonate most with, and I wonder if we haven't known each other many times before in past lives.

I'm getting to the point where I'm fed up with talking about it. I just want to find a way to make it work so that at least some of us can form a little community of mystics to caravan or build a center.

I know, at the very least, that if I can get Social Security payments coming in, then I will have the freedom to at least go throw Jhananda in his van and we can hit the national forest. Or something! I've not once had the pleasure of outdoor retreat, and I long for it.

I really hope to see more of you and Karen on here, Michael. You two are an interest of mine, because I know OF you, but I don't really know you.

You know, I am really starting to be tempted to just find out where all the active or long-standing members of the GWV live. Then one-by-one, visit their homes like a Mormon looking to recruit you all. Listen to your ideas, and try to inspire a way to make this all work.

Please forgive the idealistic nature of us youngin's. Best wishes.

It all sounds good to me.  The GWV retreats tend to be during the summer, so perhaps you can join us this summer on retreat in the wilderness.
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2014, 03:43:03 AM »
As long as I can transport myself there, I suspect I will be there.